▲ 471 ▼ Trump warns a 'whole civilization will die tonight' if a deal with Iran isn't reached (apnews.com) submitted 4 months ago by Redditsux@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world 205 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 121 points 4 months ago (1 child) Openly and directly threatening genocide. permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -57 points 4 months ago* (4 children) Civilization (noun):The stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced. The definition Oxford Languages uses is: "they equated the railroad with progress and civilization" I hate to say it, but Trump used the correct definition of civilization in regards to his destruction of civilian infrastructure. It doesn't imply genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's not the meaning of civilization he's using. The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world That's the definition he's using, and it's definitely genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dipcart@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings. Also, if you're bickering about the definition of 'civilization' when you're talking about what constitutes genocide, you're probably committing genocide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Infrastructure can't "die". He's taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He's not talking about bridges. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abaddon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) I had the same "well technically" thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it's close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -22 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I'm not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump's statement made literal sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago That's because anything coherent from him wasn't written by him. You'd think they'd do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago He's referring to the Iranian civilization. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -57 points 4 months ago* (4 children) Civilization (noun):The stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced. The definition Oxford Languages uses is: "they equated the railroad with progress and civilization" I hate to say it, but Trump used the correct definition of civilization in regards to his destruction of civilian infrastructure. It doesn't imply genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's not the meaning of civilization he's using. The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world That's the definition he's using, and it's definitely genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dipcart@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings. Also, if you're bickering about the definition of 'civilization' when you're talking about what constitutes genocide, you're probably committing genocide. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Infrastructure can't "die". He's taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He's not talking about bridges. permalink fedilink source parent [–] abaddon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) I had the same "well technically" thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it's close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -22 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I'm not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump's statement made literal sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago That's because anything coherent from him wasn't written by him. You'd think they'd do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one permalink fedilink source parent [–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago He's referring to the Iranian civilization. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago (1 child) That's not the meaning of civilization he's using. The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world That's the definition he's using, and it's definitely genocide. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dipcart@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings. Also, if you're bickering about the definition of 'civilization' when you're talking about what constitutes genocide, you're probably committing genocide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dipcart@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings. Also, if you're bickering about the definition of 'civilization' when you're talking about what constitutes genocide, you're probably committing genocide. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) Infrastructure can't "die". He's taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He's not talking about bridges. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] abaddon@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (1 child) I had the same "well technically" thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it's close. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -22 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I'm not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump's statement made literal sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago That's because anything coherent from him wasn't written by him. You'd think they'd do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one permalink fedilink source parent
[+] BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world -22 points 4 months ago* (2 children) I'm not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump's statement made literal sense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago That's because anything coherent from him wasn't written by him. You'd think they'd do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan permalink fedilink source parent [–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] village604@adultswim.fan 5 points 4 months ago That's because anything coherent from him wasn't written by him. You'd think they'd do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 1 point 4 months ago But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 months ago He's referring to the Iranian civilization. permalink fedilink source parent