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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago

Regarding 1: Operation Gladio, combined with the west flooding these areas with cash during shock therapy to buy up all of the industry and thoroughly eliminating any left-wing opposition to the new imperialist plunder is why.

Regarding 2: I do understand economics, and I do know what I'm talking about here. I suggest you read Is the Red Flag Flying? Political Economy of the Soviet Union. The soviets had a socialist mode of production and distribution that resulted in tremendous economic development everywhere, and did not operate on economic extraction from member-states. In fact, the opposite of what you describe often happened, with the central soviet union helping develop underdeveloped areas.

Regarding 3: People weren't guaranteed housing by putting them in prisons. Regarding the legal system of the USSR, I suggest you read Russian Justice. Housing was guaranteed by mass-producing housing units and strong central city planning.

Regarding 4: Nobody made the point that the name of a country determines if it is actually democratic. I'm certain that you aren't taking scholarly sources seriously now, considering I recommended Professor Roland Boer's Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Democracy in socialist countries involves a combination of electoral politics and consensus-building, called consultative democracy. It's been different in every socialist country. I suggest you start taking your claims more seriously, right now you're ignoring scholarly works because they disagree with you.

Regarding 5: That's not how propaganda works. The people of China support their system because it's genuinely democratic (see Roland Boer's textbook), and because the CPC consistently delivers excellent results. Policy comes from the people, is refined by the CPC, then released to the public for feedback, then put into action. Overall, this system has resulted in over 90% of the population approving the government, which is shown to be consistent and accurate.

Regarding 6: Copyright does not matter, and you still haven't addressed that socialist countries have pioneered sciences and technology. For example, China is at the forefront of nuclear technology and production.

Regarding 7: This is utter nonsense, again the USSR invented the world's first mobile phone and cell network for it. They invented many things even without the profit motive, because the desire to improve your existing conditions continues even into socialism. In capitalism, engineers are overwhelmingly paid wages to create new things and do not recieve royalties, only the owners do, yet creation happens in both systems. Moreover, without the profit motive, products are designed to fulfill needs, not just profits, which means problems like enshittification do not happen. As for famine, central planning ended famine in countries where this was common, resulting in doubling of life expectancies:

If you aren't going to even engage with scholarly sources proving you directly wrong, why are you responding?

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