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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up' (www.reuters.com)
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[–] 30 points 3 years ago (25 children)

Yes? What do you think challenging yourself is?

Answer my points on your nationalist brainworms being completely at odds with any assessment of yourself as "socialist" at the very least.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (24 children)

    Lol, chill TF out. I have much better things to do than spend hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy.

    And again, all I have done is said that I support Ukraine. I also happen to be a socialist. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

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  • [–] 30 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (16 children)

    And again, all I have done is said that I support Ukraine. I also happen to be a socialist. Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

    Because you don't support the people, you support the bourgeois state and your position boils down to "I am willing to kill hundreds of thousands of people to protect it."

    This is not socialist ideology. This is first and foremost nationalism, which variant of it I am as yet uncertain as you've said nothing about what your "socialism" entails. I am unable to assess whether you're a nazi or a plain old liberal that pretends to be a socialist by saying you like welfare while still completely and totally supporting capitalism and liberal institutional design to maintain the bourgeoisie as the ruling class. The german gothic aesthetic you choose for your username certainly doesn't help the suspicions I have over what you really are though, literally retvrn.

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  • [–] 27 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I have never seen one of these alleged "socialists" engage on this point. I would really like to see their rationale, and it's really frustrating that none of them will respond.

    They just dance around and repeat that they're a "socialist", but never point to a single socialist principle that informs their perspective

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago*

    They never engage with it because they know damn well that they have no excuse. Rather than engage in something that they are completely caught out on they resort to non-engagement.

    Ironically this strategy of online rhetoric is literally in the handbook from the 77th brigade that was leaked, British military psyops. However I suspect these people just learned it naturally from many bad experiences with how that went for them. This picture from their webpage makes me laugh every time because it's literally fedposting :

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago

    You know, thinking about it, i don't think i have even seen a self-described "socialist" even bring up theorists or figureheads that they say influenced them. At most, it'll be something like "someone told me they read Chomsky and they gave a quote that sounded pretty good" or "Bernie/AOC/The Squad say some pretty good things and i agree with them". I don't think i've ever seen someone talk about Kautsky or Bernstein or any of the other reformists.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 years ago (12 children)

    The german gothic aesthetic you choose for your username certainly doesn't help the suspicions I have over what you really are though, literally retvrn.

    your schizo is showing

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (11 children)

    Your ableism is showing you piece of shit

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago* (10 children)

    Try breathing exercises, might help you calm down a bit.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Try not being an ableist.
    Libs and being bigots: name a more iconic duo

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    You are grasping at straws here. Kinda funny seeing you meltdown.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago* (7 children)

    It's pretty obvious you're implying I'm autistic and that I am having a meltdown, because I disagree with you. Why do you think being autistic is bad?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    You are just embarrassing yourself at this point.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (5 children)

    Why won't you answe my question coward?

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  • [–] -1 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    Because you're not asking them in good faith, and I seriously think you need to take a step back from the internet for a bit.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago* (3 children)

    Fuck you for concerntrolling coward.
    Why do you think it is a negative to have autism?
    Why are you using terminology for autistic people being overstimulated as a way to insult me?

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  • [–] 23 points 3 years ago*

    Lol, chill TF out. I have much better things to do than spend hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy.

    Then why have you spent hours arguing with weirdos on Lemmy?

    Also you've done much more than that. You've slung out accusations of being Kremlin propagandists, among a lot of other stuff.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Why is that so hard for you to wrap your head around?

    Because you were defending the US revolution to own more slaves and commit more genocide elsewhere in the thread, which isn't a particularly socialist position.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Uh... I think you have me mistaken for someone else.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    https://reddthat.com/comment/2406567

    Here's you having it explained to you why the American Revolution was mainly undertaken so that the American ruling class could continue expanding and genociding and enslaving and then you refusing to even read it

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