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Nvidia Announces DLSS 5, and it adds... An AI slop filter over your game (www.digitalfoundry.net)
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I'm completely speechless. This looks so terrible I thought it was a joke, but apparently Nvidia released these demos to impress people. DLSS 5 runs the entire game through an AI filter, making every character look like it's running through an ultra realistic beauty filter.

The photo above is used as the promo image for the official blog post by the way. It completely ignores artistic intent and makes Grace's face look "sexier" because apparently that's what realism looks like now.

I wouldn't be so baffled if this was some experimental setting they were testing, but they're advertising this as the next gen DLSS. As in, this is their image of what the future of gaming should be. A massive F U to every artist in the industry. Well done, Nvidia.

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[–] 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (6 children)

Would you say the same thing if you didn't know that it was AI? I think it actually looks pretty good overall, although some of the changes (like deciding that this character dyes her hair had has undyed roots) are odd.

Edit: It seems to do a better job with the soccer player.

Edit 2: I wonder if it works better with male faces than with female ones. It's making the woman's eyes and lips bigger but not the man's.

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  • [–] 32 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Agreed.

    The effect is waaaaay too strong in those screenshots, but a more subtle version would be alright.

    And yes. It's definitely "sexifying" the woman in the shot. Transformers img2img models are notorious for basically:

    I could speculate why. Could be that it's (unfortunately) mostly male Tech Bros developing them? Or it could be that a massive fraction of the dataset is sexualized photos of women scraped from social media. But TBH, while I don't know why this is the case, pretty much all diffusion models tend to "Instagram" women more than men.

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I kind of agree with you.

    It does not look bad. What im worried is that the ai cant keep up and will end up changing the look of the characters and i hate that it will take the agency from the artists.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Realistically the artists working on it have a say into what graphics settings are allowed, and they already deal with the fact some people will need to run on very low settings, also affecting their ideal viewing conditions. If the newer DLSS really makes such sweeping changes they would either ask Nvidia for improvements, disable it, or heavily dissuade it.

    But player autonomy is also important, so it's a balancing act. If the players end up wanting it and you take it away from them, it still won't make sense to strip it out at the end of the day.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (1 child)

    What of the agency of the players? Who will be sitting in the room and impacted, if this optional feature is enabled in the privacy of one's home? Will the artist, halfway around the world suddenly wail and fall over in pain because of personal preference?

    I guess it's the same as when people put steak sauce on a steak, and all the chefs who love the taste of bloody meat cry that the meal has been ruined... Except they're not the ones eating it. They can enjoy their own creations however they like without getting all nitpicky about how others have their own preferences.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    In game design what artists do is more than just graphics. There are minute details in characters that effect the story amd what ai overlay dont know have importance. Like scars or whenether the character uses makeup or colours their hair or something. These are storybeats and i dont really care if people want to see them or not. Some people skip the dialogue and its their decition.

    Then the graphic artists and level designers work together with enviromental clues like is that wall climpable, or is that obstacle breakable. Also level design has often designed breadcrumbs like lights flickerin on a door or paint/blood splashes with vibrant colours to show where to go. If the ai starts to change these things they might become hard to see or overly bright wich in turn makes the game worse and player does not necessarily even know why it feels bad.

    Maybe the right word is that something that sees only 2d render of the game and enchances it just how they see best at the moment lacks the undertstanding of the artistic intent.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago* (2 children)

    The popular “it looks awful” kneejerk is so telling.

    I dislike AI, but the utter delusion around it reminds me of how people complained about the internet in the 90s. There was a sensible fear, and then there were essentially Luddites.

    Everything repeats.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago*

    But the younger women in those screenshots are absolutely "sexified."

    I'm an AI evangalist as far as Lemmy goes, but that is a problem. It's beyond a "sensible fear" problem, its unignorable and unacceptable. I'm kind of shocked DF didn't point it out.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    "All technological development is good because there are always people who complain and then the technological development continues regardless. There's no point in critique, everything is always perfect and nothing you say will change it anyway so who cares."

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  • [+] -6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    “I only see things in black and white because I haven’t grown up”

    I actually blocked you on another account because you’re such a douchebag. I wish those could be exported more easily!

    Oh I remember you now!! You’re the “we should rise up against fascism” coward who months ago said

    I'm willing to go to prison or die anyway

    I mean I can go first, I've been queueing for some time already.

    And here you are, pathetically typing about AI. What happened, tough boy?

    This is still you:

    Just a completely random un thought through thought. Maybe peace is the best thing, and it will happen if we just do nothing. What do you think?

    Who needs AI when real humans are this worthless?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    Dunno whats the beef between you guys, but its healthy to see and interract with people who have different opinions than you.

    Blocking people just because you think they are douchebags because they have different opinion just makes you live in a bubble where you hear only things that reinforce your own views.

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