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The legal ruling against the Internet Archive has come down in favour of the rights of authors.

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[-] [email protected] 227 points 2 years ago

I hope all the writers who support this lawsuit understand that they are contributing to a long standing effort to outlaw libraries in general. Nobody makes direct money off of sharing things. Get ready for DRM involved in every single thing that you do.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

Listen, I love libraries as much as the next person. We have very clear laws that protect libraries.

Is copyright a little fucked and a little too slanted towards those rights holders? Yes.

Did anyone really think it was OK to start adding books and movies in? And provide those for free to everyone simultaneously? Libraries don’t do that.

[-] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Libraries can do that. Okay, technically, it's illegal, but under the doctrine of sovereign immunity, since US libraries are run by political subdivisions of US states, they can't be sued with the state's permission which means that a state government can literally not allow the library to be sued for copyright infringement and then they'd get away with it.

The trade-off is that this probably permanently burns all bridges between the library and publishers, who would likely not want to deal with the library any more.

Edit: The controlling US Supreme Court precedent is Allen v. Cooper. The State of North Carolina published a bunch of shipwreck photos. The copyright owner of those photos sued claiming copyright infringement. The Supreme Court ruled in favour of the state saying Congress can't abrogate a state's Amendment XI sovereign immunity using copyright law as a pretext, thus the photography firm needs the State's permission to sue it in federal court.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If some library decided to infringe copyright then it could most certainly be sued for compensation under the Takings Clause.

Government has a Constitutional obligation to pay for any private property it takes, whether it's land for a new building or intellectual property.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It is fairly clear the parent isn’t a lawyer. It’s also fairly clear they have very little interaction with law in general. I’m guessing more of the sovereign citizen camp.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not a sovereign citizen. This is just a point where the law isn't fair/doesn't work in the way that you'd expect. See the updated parent comment for sources + legal reasoning.

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