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[–] 168 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Israel is literally waging a war to expand borders, so yeah, maybe they want to be left alone in the sense that they won't accept any state other than Israel existing in the end.

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  • [–] 63 points 5 months ago (14 children)

    It’s … wild because this is part of the roots of the Jewish people being chased from their lands.

    In a world where folks accepted other peoples gods but revered their own … the monotheistic Abrahamic religions fucked all that up.

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  • [–] 22 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    Have you ever heard of this social experiment that was done a long time ago.?

    A teacher in 1968, following days after MLK was murdered, decided to teach kids about racism. It ended up becoming a famous experiment about how people who are discriminated against will often do the same back to others. And that we are all equally capable of being taught to discriminate even when we ourselves have faced discrimination and know what it's like.

    Here is the premise. (All kids were white, I believe)

    The teacher told the students that blue eye color students were smarter than brown eye color students because the pigment in brown eyes was related to lower intelligence.

    Here is the rest copied from Wikipedia

    "Initially, there was resistance among the students in the minority group to the idea that blue-eyed children were better than brown-eyed children. To counter this, Elliott led the children to believe the false premise that melanin was linked to their higher intelligence and learning ability. Shortly thereafter, the initial resistance fell away. Those who were deemed "superior" became arrogant, bossy, and otherwise unpleasant to their "inferior" classmates. Their grades on simple tests improved, and they completed mathematical and reading tasks that had seemed outside their ability before. The "inferior" classmates also transformed – into timid and subservient children who scored more poorly on tests, and even during recess isolated themselves, including those who had previously been dominant in the class. These children's academic performance suffered, even with tasks that had been simple before.[10]

    The next Monday, Elliott reversed the exercise, making the brown-eyed children superior. While the brown-eyed children did taunt the blue-eyed children in ways similar to what had occurred the previous day, Elliott reports it was much less intense. To reflect on the experience, she asked the children to write down what they had learned.[6]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Elliott

    Here is an in-depth article by PBS on it. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/introduction-2/

    Here is a documentary about it , also made by PBS. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1mcCLm_LwpE

    It's a fascinating experiment into human behavior and self reflection. And how superiority complex changes performance and personality.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I was surprised to learn Jane Elliott is still alive. MLK's assassination really wasn't as long ago as they want you to believe.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    Black slavery really wasn't that long ago either.

    1863

    163 years.

    That's roughly only 2 lifetimes ago.

    Two.

    But yeah segregation was 50 years. People are alive today that weren't allowed to use the same toilets as whites or share drinking fountains. Restaurants wouldn't serve them.

    Sundown towns. Lynchings.

    The latter is still occurring.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 months ago (7 children)

    The problem with believing in gods is that you think you are right. That makes other people wrong. And so it begins...

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago (11 children)

    That is one way to see it, but it’s also possible to have a more pluralistic view. Like in India which has a long tradition of many religions co-existing with respect.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Why would you believe anything if you were going to believe you were wrong?

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