▲ 690 ▼ YouTube ads are about to get even longer and they’ll be unskippable - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com) submitted 6 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 281 comments fedilink hide all child comments YouTube viewers will soon have to sit through even longer ads, with Google rolling out new 30-second unskippable spots on a popular app.
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 28 points 6 months ago (16 children) We need an alternative with people on it. permalink fedilink source hideshow 16 child comments replies: [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago (2 children) Gotta start somewhere. Get on peertube. Hell that's the reason I'm here and not on Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) The ability to host that level of video and audio data, streaming, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Purge old stuff. Keep only what you really enjoy. It's not too bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) You're people. What alternative are you using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Nebula, means tv, and dropout =/ none will be the next YouTube but it’s nice to have options I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) Nebula doesn’t have hobby vids. Good in some respects, terrible in others. In addition, it’s locked down to posting, with only a nebulous indicator as to how to get invited to post creator content. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Joelk111@lemmy.world -12 points 6 months ago* (9 children) Or to come to terms with needing to pay for the services you use. YouTube has a paid option that supports the platform and creators much more that watching ads. Of course, I also upload my videos to PeerTube. Seems like the best alternative I've seen thus far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago* (1 child) I get a lot of value from YouTube that I would happily pay for, and I already pay for online services that respect me but I wouldn't pay a company that treats users like they do. It's not the ads I have a problem with, it's the tracking of users. They could have ads on their website that don't track users. You can subscribe to premium and presumably they don't show you ads, but they still track you. If they didn't do that I would happily pay them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago That's incredibly fair permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (3 children) That used to be a fair deal. We know better now and even have a word for what will happen to us once we're locked into the system, enshittification. Just about every subscription model eventually leads to squeezing as much as they can out of us without a corresponding increase in value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (2 children) I agree in general, but when it comes to YouTube and the creator economy I do partially disagree. You aren't locked into anything, you can just go somewhere else. It isn't like Netflix and the other million subscription services where they hold all of the power, that's the beauty of independant online video creation; the creators have the power. If YT becomes enshittified enough, creators will leave to somewhere else. As it is, I currently watch some videos on PeerTube, some on YouTube, some on Nebula, and some on other platforms. People do struggle with using multiple websites across the internet, preferring to stick to a core few websites, but for their favorite creators I believe they'd branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It's hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 6 months ago The problem is they’re already making bank on ads and data. They don’t need our money. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago Hey, if you can find reliable vids on fixing just about anything, it’s in. Bonus if there’s solid journalism and documentaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago (2 children) Gotta start somewhere. Get on peertube. Hell that's the reason I'm here and not on Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) The ability to host that level of video and audio data, streaming, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Purge old stuff. Keep only what you really enjoy. It's not too bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) The ability to host that level of video and audio data, streaming, though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Purge old stuff. Keep only what you really enjoy. It's not too bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago Purge old stuff. Keep only what you really enjoy. It's not too bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) You're people. What alternative are you using? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Nebula, means tv, and dropout =/ none will be the next YouTube but it’s nice to have options I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) Nebula doesn’t have hobby vids. Good in some respects, terrible in others. In addition, it’s locked down to posting, with only a nebulous indicator as to how to get invited to post creator content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] brynden_rivers_esq@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) Nebula, means tv, and dropout =/ none will be the next YouTube but it’s nice to have options I guess permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) Nebula doesn’t have hobby vids. Good in some respects, terrible in others. In addition, it’s locked down to posting, with only a nebulous indicator as to how to get invited to post creator content. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) Nebula doesn’t have hobby vids. Good in some respects, terrible in others. In addition, it’s locked down to posting, with only a nebulous indicator as to how to get invited to post creator content. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Joelk111@lemmy.world -12 points 6 months ago* (9 children) Or to come to terms with needing to pay for the services you use. YouTube has a paid option that supports the platform and creators much more that watching ads. Of course, I also upload my videos to PeerTube. Seems like the best alternative I've seen thus far. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] anothermember@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago* (1 child) I get a lot of value from YouTube that I would happily pay for, and I already pay for online services that respect me but I wouldn't pay a company that treats users like they do. It's not the ads I have a problem with, it's the tracking of users. They could have ads on their website that don't track users. You can subscribe to premium and presumably they don't show you ads, but they still track you. If they didn't do that I would happily pay them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago That's incredibly fair permalink fedilink source parent [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (3 children) That used to be a fair deal. We know better now and even have a word for what will happen to us once we're locked into the system, enshittification. Just about every subscription model eventually leads to squeezing as much as they can out of us without a corresponding increase in value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (2 children) I agree in general, but when it comes to YouTube and the creator economy I do partially disagree. You aren't locked into anything, you can just go somewhere else. It isn't like Netflix and the other million subscription services where they hold all of the power, that's the beauty of independant online video creation; the creators have the power. If YT becomes enshittified enough, creators will leave to somewhere else. As it is, I currently watch some videos on PeerTube, some on YouTube, some on Nebula, and some on other platforms. People do struggle with using multiple websites across the internet, preferring to stick to a core few websites, but for their favorite creators I believe they'd branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It's hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 6 months ago The problem is they’re already making bank on ads and data. They don’t need our money. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago Hey, if you can find reliable vids on fixing just about anything, it’s in. Bonus if there’s solid journalism and documentaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anothermember@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago* (1 child) I get a lot of value from YouTube that I would happily pay for, and I already pay for online services that respect me but I wouldn't pay a company that treats users like they do. It's not the ads I have a problem with, it's the tracking of users. They could have ads on their website that don't track users. You can subscribe to premium and presumably they don't show you ads, but they still track you. If they didn't do that I would happily pay them. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago That's incredibly fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago That's incredibly fair permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago (3 children) That used to be a fair deal. We know better now and even have a word for what will happen to us once we're locked into the system, enshittification. Just about every subscription model eventually leads to squeezing as much as they can out of us without a corresponding increase in value. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (2 children) I agree in general, but when it comes to YouTube and the creator economy I do partially disagree. You aren't locked into anything, you can just go somewhere else. It isn't like Netflix and the other million subscription services where they hold all of the power, that's the beauty of independant online video creation; the creators have the power. If YT becomes enshittified enough, creators will leave to somewhere else. As it is, I currently watch some videos on PeerTube, some on YouTube, some on Nebula, and some on other platforms. People do struggle with using multiple websites across the internet, preferring to stick to a core few websites, but for their favorite creators I believe they'd branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It's hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (2 children) I agree in general, but when it comes to YouTube and the creator economy I do partially disagree. You aren't locked into anything, you can just go somewhere else. It isn't like Netflix and the other million subscription services where they hold all of the power, that's the beauty of independant online video creation; the creators have the power. If YT becomes enshittified enough, creators will leave to somewhere else. As it is, I currently watch some videos on PeerTube, some on YouTube, some on Nebula, and some on other platforms. People do struggle with using multiple websites across the internet, preferring to stick to a core few websites, but for their favorite creators I believe they'd branch out. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It's hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) I guess there are some examples of that happening with places like patreon, floatplane, twitch, kick, etc. It's hard to fathom anything coming along that can even approach the reach of youtube without backing from another big tech company and eventually following the same enshittification pattern. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago It really is hard to fathom, but I think it has a high likely hood of happening some day. I also think it's why YouTube hasn't been enshittified more than it has been, they know that it's a possibility. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 6 months ago The problem is they’re already making bank on ads and data. They don’t need our money. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 3 points 6 months ago The problem is they’re already making bank on ads and data. They don’t need our money. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 point 6 months ago Hey, if you can find reliable vids on fixing just about anything, it’s in. Bonus if there’s solid journalism and documentaries. permalink fedilink source parent