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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 child)

Just to be fair, “Our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year has not changed” clearly states a goal and not a promise.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

What does that have to do with this conversation?

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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

OP opined that the wait might be longer, which isn’t false.

Furthermore, “We hope to ship in 2026, but…” specifically references 2026, and not the first half, which as I pointed out had only been referenced as their goal.

The first half of this year is still 2026, sure, but 2026 isn’t just the first half of this year. 2026 by itself is a whole year.

Do you see what this has to do with the conversation?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

OP opined that the wait might be longer, which isn’t false.

No they didn't. They said Valve suggested it would be longer, which did not happen.

The first half of this year is still 2026, sure, but 2026 isn’t just the first half of this year. 2026 by itself is a whole year.

...and? You're reaching here. That is in no way any sort of suggestion.

Do you see what this has to do with the conversation?

No. No one said anything about a "promise", at any time. Not me, not the author, and not Valve. Only you.

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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 1 point 5 months ago* (1 child)

Either OP edited their post or you should go back and read it again. They just said the wait might be longer. They didn’t say valve said anything.

There’s no reaching. A car is a vehicle, but not all vehicles are cars. When someone says 2026, it is a year. There is zero implication of one half or the other. I think the omission of indicating the first half could be a slip up, but is worth noting. It could be interpreted as a suggestion.

I bring up promise because people tend to freak out when things get delayed, as if it were a promise. I mean to imply that we should expect a delay, and be pleasantly surprised if it launches any earlier.

Does this make sense?

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 5 months ago*

They didn’t say valve said anything.

Its literally the title of the article...

When someone says 2026, it is a year. There is zero implication of one half or the other.

Yes, that's exactly my point.

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[–] chamomile@furry.engineer 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

@Ulrich Per other discussions on this, that's because that part was edited later. Polygon's quote from yesterday's blog was correct at the time, but is outdated now. (And they should update their article accordingly.)

Addressing the trio of new hardware releases planned for this year, Valve said, "We hope to ship in 2026, but as we shared recently, memory and storage shortages have created challenges for us. We’ll share updates publicly when we finalize our plans!"

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

The quote that I provided was directly from the Polygon article. Do you mean to suggest it was only clickbait shitfuckery when the article was first posted?

Even then, I would argue that that STILL does not "suggest further delays".

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[–] chamomile@furry.engineer 0 points 5 months ago (1 child)

@Ulrich Which quote, the "first half of this year" one? Yeah, that was a post in February. A few weeks later, Valve posts a new blog saying "we hope to ship in 2026" which absolutely suggests that NOT shipping in 2026 is also a possibility. That's the quote everyone reported on, which was later revised to say "we will be shipping all three products this year." This is all a ton of noise and speculation based on a single line that ended up being a misphrasing but it wasn't wrong based on the information at the time.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

FYI you don't have to tag me, I got a notification when you reply to me.

Which quote

The one from Valve in the Polygon article.

it wasn't wrong based on the information at the time.

It was. There was, at no time, any suggestion by Valve that the release was being delayed further, and especially not at the time the article was published.

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