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[–] [email protected] 114 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Something worth noting is that F-Droid is both an app to download other apps but they also maintains a repository of apps. You can use alternative store apps (like Droid-ify) with the F-Droid repository OR you could use the F-Droid app with a different repository (like IzzyOnDroid). You can mix and match to meet your needs.

I use the Droid-ify app with the F-Droid, IzzyOnDroid, microG, NewPipe, and Collabora repositories.

Once you start down this rabbit hole, give Obtanium a look.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Neostore is also a good alternative to the normal f-droid client

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yep. Their permission and tracker built in viewer is a super qol feature

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yes, I much prefer Neostore.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I wanted to like this one.

Neostore got stuck trying to sync repos or something and drained my battery from 80% to 20% within like an hour.

Uninstalled it immediately. No app should be able to malfunction in such a way to cause such battery drain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on what these different repos are and do? And, referring to a child comment, what is divest?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

On Android, we're used the "Play Store" being both the app that facilitates downloads as well as the collection of apps available. With F-Droid, you can add additional collections of apps to make available for download.

You might add an additional repository to gain access to apps not in the main F-Droid repository. You might add a developer's repository to gain access to updates to their apps before those updates hit the main F-Droid repository.

Divest is the developer repository for app maintained by Divest OS, a fork of Lineage OS.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have and use F-Droid but hadn't caught on to repos and their function. Just seen it mentioned. Thanks for elaborating!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Some software developers prefer to host their own repos and have more control over the release process and/or don't want to fill all the criteria for being included on f-droid, so they create their own repos. Some of these apps can still be found on vanilla fdroid, but often aren't updated so frequently.

Izzyondroid, on the other hand, is a different project, aimed at hosting different apps that are usually from smaller devs and can't be included on fdroid yet, for different reasons.

The greatest thing about fdroid is that it allows anyone to create their own repos and you aren't forced to depend on anyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would avoid adding other repositories because you are risking malware and anti features.

F-droid is slow to get updates but it also verifies each app

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There is safety there, but you're just as safe using the the developer's own repository for their apps, like NewPipe, Collabora, or the Guardian Project.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I just have the basic f droid app, the layout is awful and confusing. Is there one you suggest?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Then check out droid-ify. It has a really clean looking UI that won't get in your way.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think he did suggest droid-ify with fdroid repo: https://github.com/Droid-ify/client

Looks good, I will try it out. You have it in F-droid :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Apologies, I didn't follow what was a storefront and such.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Don't forget Divest, a must have repo. Also Molly for a foss signal client

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Oh THAT'S what repos are for? I assumed they were all independently structured and incompatible with each other for different reasons lmao.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Many years ago I tried to go completely de-googled, and that involved using only F-droid. One of the many problems I faced was the tedious update process. I needed to tap each and every app individually every time there were updates. I wonder if droid-ify could have fixed that. Unfortunately I didn’t come across that app at the time, so I didn’t try it out.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh for sure! Droid-ify offers a few different installation methods. The Legacy and Session install options are what you are used to. With those methods, you are prompted to download and install with each update.

With the Root install method, updates can be downloaded and installed in the background using root privileges. Lastly, and I think most intriguing, is using Shizuku. Shizuku is a utility that will give you close to root access using ADB. See link for details. So, with the Shizuku install methods, Droid-ify can keep all your F-Droid apps up to date with little intervention from the user.

Footnote: Because Shizuku leverages ADB, it needs to be started manually after each reboot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That’s awesome! Looks like there’s been progress while I was not looking.

What do you think, is it now a viable option do daily drive a completely de-googled phone?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's a lot more feasible than it used to be. I also use Aurora Store to fill in the gaps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I use neo store it's native non root installer (usually) manage to do one click install all updates.