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[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I never read his books, but Hyperion is on my list. Is it that good? I see more people talking about Dune.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 9 points 5 days ago

It's really good, it makes the world(s) feel alive and not like an opera.

[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just learned he is very racist, does Hyperion have his political views in it? I can read Lovecraft just fine, since it is it a product of its time. This on the other hand is recent. I also heard it has a Palestinian character how are they portrayed?

https://web.archive.org/web/20060424105133/http://www.dansimmons.com/news/message.htm

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes, it was a recent TIL for me too.

I don't think it comes across like that in Hyperion, if anything it's like diversity or something. Then again, I don't read books as if I'm the lead character, my morals don't roleplay, it's just a character with their own faults etc.

What I've noticed (more so in other his books) is how often (but not always) poorly women are treated. But eg in Drood that is just plainly realistic af (Victorian England). And tbf, racism in space also sounds realistic af. Also religious cults, mysticism, etc.

(I haven't read a lot of his books, so by opinion that it's fine doesn't cover all of his works. Hyperion & Terror are ok by me. And at least I didn't pay him directly buying used books. And if I ever need a copy for my ereader I'll ask friendly neighbourhood librarian Anna.)

[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

From what I heard his later books are the issue like flashback:

!a poet who fled Israel after 6 million Jews were murdered by the Muslim "Global Caliphate" — seem to have been created for the sole purpose of explaining why the left wing has destroyed America. !<

https://www.npr.org/2011/07/28/137621172/one-rant-too-many-politics-mar-simmons-dystopia

[-] Evil_Shrubbery 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, this is exactly why I added the thing about me not speaking for all his books.
(This was also a recent TIL of mine. It also sounds like a poorly thought out plot tbh, it just seems that it will be riddled with logical plot holes, which I really hate bcs lazy writing. Or motivated otherwise.)

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 8 points 5 days ago

I think it feels alive AND like an Opera. So good.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 5 days ago

I tried Dune and I just found it sooooo boring. It's more political and squarely in the space opera genre, which hyperion is not.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

I didn't really enjoy the Hyperion books all that much myself.

I enjoyed Dune much more, if you're talking about the first book. However, as for the series...Dune is one of those series where I really enjoyed the first book and then felt that each successive book was less-good than the previous one. YMMV.

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