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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (23 children)

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I used Manjaro for a few years before switching to Arch. Manjaro finds a nice sweespot for "Arch but also nice". Furthermore, Arch has gotten much more user friendly in the last 5 years or so. Back in late 2010s, Manjaro was adding a lot of value on top of Arch.

What really bothered me about Manjaro was the "forum cops" they employ, who are super aggressive to newcomers and unhelpful. It was not a nice experience to seek help. Say what you will about Arch people, they are at least helpful.

I finally switched to Arch when I got my new machine. I recommend the same.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

Just to add to the 2010s bit, I tried Arch in like... 2015 I think it would've been. I followed the wiki to the letter. It was not my first Linux install, I'd been experimenting with a lot of distros for five years by then. I could not get it to work. To be fair, I still haven't tried Arch in 2026, I use CachyOS, but I think back then Manjaro was really the only thing providing that type of experience. Everyone holds the Arch wiki on a pedestal because it's so useful, but the install guide and state of Arch back in 2015 simply wasn't what it is today. I haven't ever used Manjaro so I can't really speak for it, but that's just sort of my guess as someone who had difficulty with Arch from that era. Luckily we have CachyOS, EndeavorOS, and, presumably, a better install process on vanilla Arch now.

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[–] EponymousBosh@awful.systems 2 points 7 months ago

If someone still wants "Arch but also nice," I'd point them at Garuda tbh. I really liked it but the rolling updates kept breaking my NVIDIA drivers. If not for that I might still be using it.

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[–] rhubarbe@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Manjaro differs from Arch in terms of update cycles. They are not rolling like Arch but adhere to some monthly-ish release cycle. Which i love by the way.

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] rhubarbe@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 3 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Those cycles are meant for testing a coherent set of versions. If you update Arch on a monthly basis I'm not quite sure you got the same testing. I've been running Manjaro for 8 years now (laptop for business and family stuff) and I can't remember any issue with it. I also have Endeavour and Debian on my desktop (gaming / casual) and server.

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] Liketearsinrain@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Manjaro has always sold the illusion of "vibes based" stability. It worked well and even some laptops shipped with it. It's self evident why it's not an actual improvement but people want whatever value they assign to using arch.

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[–] rhubarbe@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 point 7 months ago

All you said is factually correct but I never had any issue with aur and Manjaro. It seems the issue is more theoretical than anything. On the other side, there are plenty of situations where I don't want to have frequent 1Gb updates that don't bring many benefits.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

My thinking process years ago was:

I had Debian and was not satisfied with the fact that I had to wait ages for updates of stuff like KDE Plasma. I wanted something with shorter update intervals.

I decided against Ubuntu because of the company behind it.

I decided against Mint, because it's on level 3 in the derivate tree, so more places where something can go wrong.

Then I found Manjaro and liked it from the beginning. Very easy to install (no script necessary), awesome custom Plasma theme, short update intervals, ...

Arch can be scary. I wanted a reliable, easy OS for private use and I knew, I get that with Manjaro. With Arch, I was not sure whether I might FCK something up.

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[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (11 children)

from what ive heard of manjaro, they do less testing on new packages than arch. also, nothing on arch ever broke my pc except for the clock, which was probably because i configured it wrong (didn't use archinstall).

only time an update has ever done anything bad was like a week ago when plasma 6.6 launched and the login freezed the pc, but that was on cachyos, not main arch.

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[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago*

I think, I haven't had any mentionable problem with Manjaro over multiple years.

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

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[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 months ago (8 children)

Because you can setup Vanilla Arch to be exactly like that derivative

There's the difference, you don't have to set the derivative up.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"Why do people buy a car if they can make one themselves" type of argument. I'm a little shocked someone can walk so close to the point and not get it. It's practically stabbing them in their face.

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

Sure, but the user knowing how to fix something or not wasn't the problem or related to anything you said. It's that you said they seem pointless to you and went on to describe their exact point of existence.

To be very clear, I'm not trying to make an argument for or against Arch derivatives, I just thought it was funny that you said they're pointless because you can customize them when people use them specifically because they don't want to bother with doing those customizations themselves.

I would consider using Endeavor OS because I just want something that can do basic work once it's installed (I use CachyOS which is also an Arch derivative, but it modifies core packages which is different from what you're talking about). Manjaro has separate criticisms, I'm not saying it's "good." I'm just saying it shouldn't be surprising that someone wants to use Arch and wants customization on a bleeding edge, rolling release, but wants a system that isn't quite so minimal once they're done installing.

(I should try to install Arch to a VM or something and use this archinstall script. Because if it works as well as everyone says then my opinion might be different.)

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[–] Churlish_Witness@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

i wouldn't call myself a Linux newbie, and I use CachyOS out of necessity (I have an ASUS laptop), and I'm perfectly content to introduce myself as way too lazy to do it the "proper" Arch way. Maybe someday.

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[+] sonofearth@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago

Yeah, I'm not defending Manjaro, they are too sloppy for me to do that. Rather EndeavourOS and CachyOS and similar which either give you a working Arch install with minimal effort or add something that may be of value to Arch. That said, the Manjaro distro itself is pretty good, especially if you swap the unstable repos which mirror the Arch ones. Kind of defeats the point of Manjaro though.

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[–] someonesmall@lemmy.ml 1 point 7 months ago

Back in 2015 for gaming PC: Steam and Nvidia driver updates via package manager, Xfce (used it before on multiple laptops), promise to be more stable than vanilla arch.

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