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[–] 36 points 7 months ago (91 children)

Veganism is unnatural because we're all omnivores, and evolved eating both plants and animals.

Impregnating cows this way is also unnatural.

Both can be true.

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  • [–] 84 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Fun fact, we evolved to eat raw meat, that's why we have an appendix. Then, when we stopped eating raw meat, we started to evolve away from the appendix.

    Evolutionary arguments don't support the naturalist fallacy, because evolution doesn't work like that. It responds to environmental pressures. It's not some guiding light for what we're "meant" to be doing, it's the tools we've got to support what we already did.

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago

    This article says it was for raw vegetables:

    For our ancestors, the appendix most likely evolved to help them digest a diet rich in raw vegetables and cellulose, as it still does in many herbivorous mammals. Thousands of years ago it would have functioned as an extension of the cecum, involved in the bacterial digestion of fibrous plant materials.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    That is not proven though, the appendix part, that's the explanation I like the best as well. Other explanations, I forget, the aliens had it for some shit we don't even know about, oh yeah, the more likely non joke one, and it could be what you say and this both many organs do multiple things, is to provide a reservoir of gut bacteria, to repopulate the gut after the system is flushed. That would go right along with digesting raw meat, as using independent bacteria is large part of the human body we've come to learn.

    I forget what the other theories are, but there are others for the appendix, I believe the raw meat and reservoir of bacteria both though is most likely.

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago

    While still technically a theory, the appendix acting as a reservoir for healthy gut bacteria has largely been proven. That function could very well have helped with digestion of raw meat as well, especially if eating raw meats caused issues with diarrhea.

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  • [–] 30 points 7 months ago (24 children)

    we’re all omnivores

    Except, you know, the vegans.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago* (29 children)

    Our monkey, or rather ape, ancestors were more vegan than meat eater.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

    More vegan.

    What a curious phrase. Not just for the substitution of vegetarian for vegan, but for the use of "more". More vegan. I thought it was binary. Are there partial vegans? I thought that wasn't allowed.

    Because my diet includes more calories and nutrition from plant matter than meat most days, am I more vegan now?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    You may already be a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexitarianism           

    "International research explains that flexitarianism is used as a broader term to describe partial reductions in meat consumption without fixed requirements.^[7]^^"^

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