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Dbzero has Defederated from Feddit.org following its Governance post about the later's "Zionist Bar Problem" (lemmy.zip)

submitted 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) by Salamence@lemmy.zip to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

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Dbzero Governance Vote Post https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63525728

Ahoy mateys!

A few of our users have recently pointed out that a lot of the pro-Zionist accounts on the fediverse nowadays seem to come from the feddit.org instance.

But whatever the excuse happens to be, they need to do better imo. Israel is currently the most violent, fascist and genocidal nation state in the Middle East (if you exclude the US military bases there). And yet feddit.org seems to regard the Palestinians fighting against Israel’s ongoing illegal occupation of their land as the real terrorists. ....

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Our instance already voted to ban pro-Zionist accounts (see https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/60585441 for reference) and the rule that was implemented is here: Golden Rule #8.

As further context, you can find relevant comments and discussion in this post by a banned feddit admin in MoG (that fact they chose to post in MoG is in itself quite telling), and this post about their defederation from quokk.au over anti-semitism allegations has recently become active again. ...

Note 2: If you think feddit.org deserves a full instance ban instead, or have alternative suggestions, then please leave your comments below. If enough people think that’s the better option, then we’ll do that instead.

In the end the Post had around 70% of support by dbzer0 users, who in the comments also called for defederation.

Here is a Link to Dbzer0 instances tab https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/instances where if you go to blocked instances you can see fedddit.org is now defederated

i dont think feddit has made a post now, but when they do i will add it

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[-] peacefulpixel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Well what you're bringing up now is a very nuanced discussion. nuanced and possibly even subjective.

but my take, reeducation as a concept surely doesn't remind me of anything ethical in real world history. it also still reminds me of a carceral system, just a differently short-sighted one. i can't imagine a crime befitting of reeducation either, i mean let's talk about bigotry for instance. how far do you go trying to avoid shunning a bigot before you're just doing them the favour of giving them people to abuse? how would you teach a bigot out of bigotry, in this scenario they're already living in a world without the systems that cultivate an environment of bigotry yet they persist. they're beyond help as far as i'm concerned. also, some crime happens out of necessity because of being left behind by capitalism.

i at least don't think crimes against humanity are worthy of mercy of any sort.