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Linux Mint's success also means maintainer stress - The Register (www.theregister.com)
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[–] 18 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Honestly i wouldn't hold it against them if they take some time off and relax, they have done so much over the years without asking for anything in return they are finally getting some appreciation they deserve and of course donations help a lot but donations can't help with burnout.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    I hope they do not take their foot too far off the gas before completing their Wayland transition.

    Once KDE, GNOME, COSMIC, Budgie, and Cinnamon are all Wayland, 90% of all Linux desktops will be Wayland. With XFCE, it could be 95%.

    I am looking forward to essentially all Linux desktop users being on Wayland so we can stop acting like it is not already the norm or even pretending that it is not going to happen. I am looking forward to putting it behind us and we are so close.

    At the same time, I have a lot of respect for conservative desktops like Cinnamon and XFCE that, while acknowledging that Wayland is the future, are taking great pains to minimize disruption for their current users and even to allow users to keep X11 as a fully supported platform. I am all for that.

    I do not expect Cinnamon to maintain X11 as an option very long after they switch to Wayland as the default. First while many distros ship Cinnamon, it is really a product of the Mint project and Mint is very much a Linux Desktop. Second, Mint does not have the resources as they point out in this article. Of course, I could be wrong.

    XFCE will probably keep X11 around much longer. First, XFCE is very popular in non-Linux settings. But mostly I say this because xfwm4 itself takes very little dev effort and it is the only XFCE component really tied to x11. Xorg is essentially in features freeze. As long as XLibre does not break everything, xfwm4 will just continue to work. The other components of XFCE work fine in both environments already. The goal of xfwl4 (the XFCE Wayland compositor) is to mirror the xfwm4 experience. And xfwl4 is deferring to other components to define behaviour (eg. xfsession and xfdesktop). So, it should be easy to keep the overall XFCE experience in sync on both display servers without much wasted effort.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    Clem, the lead dev of the Cinnamon project, wrote in the last blog post, that they only need to migrate the cinnamon screensaver from X11 to Wayland and that this is the last piece for full Wayland support. See https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=4991

    Seems like the upcoming Mint release will fully support Cinnamon with Wayland, even if X11 might still be the default.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I am looking forward to essentially all Linux desktop users being on Wayland so we can stop acting like it is not already the norm or even pretending that it is not going to happen.

    Yeah ... about that...

    As long as X11 still works and does what I want it to, I'll keep using it.

    (And hopefully, by the time I'm dragged to a new system, kicking and screaming the whole way, Wayland will be fully mature and complete and it will be a painless transition.)

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