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Waymo admits that its autopilot is often just guys from the Philippines (www.techspot.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/fuck_ai@lemmy.world
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[–] 4 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Hard disagree.

Driving in SE Asia is much more difficult than driving in a western country.

Driving in a US city after navigating traffic in manilla would be a snap. Phillipino drivers are not idiots and can easily recognise that in foreign cities people drive in a different way.

Besides which, I dont think these waymo drivers are driving in that sense. More like "click ok to allow thr vehicle to proceed" kind of way.

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago (8 children)

    The issue is a South East Asian not used to staying in your lane like US traffic rules, would make a terrible driver in the USA.

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  • [–] -3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    Nonsense.

    Many millions of people who learned to drive in SE Asia have relocated to Western Countries and manage to understand staying in their lane just fine.

    It's not as though drivers from SE Asia have any less situational awareness, merely that driving etiquette is different.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It is actually easier to do lane driving than not to.
    I am a cyclist and it was much easier to drive in the capital, where people would lane drive (and ride in the lane myself) despite overall faster traffic, as compared to other cities, where everyone is just haphazard, with regular wrong-siders making the slow lanes harder.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Yeah. I'm Australian but have lived in SE Asia for several years.

    Driving in Australia is infinitely easier than Asia. Its easy to make the adjustment to driving in Australia but most Australian drivers would struggle Driving in Adia.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    driving etiquette is different.

    I figured this would be the key issue. Even in the US, people drive very differently in different states. I lived in south Florida for a while and although I could go on about drivers there, what really makes it tricky is the design of the roads/lights. There are some on-ramps where you'd have to cross a solid line in order to get onto the main highway (and if you don't, you head straight into an off-ramp.) This is a distinct problem around Miami on I-95. There are also left-turn lights that don't activate at all during rush hour (despite having left-turn lanes.) This also occurs in Miami, specifically on US-1.

    Both of these situations mean having to technically make illegal moves in order to get where you need to go, by either crossing a solid line or turning left on red, respectively. It's absolutely maddening, and makes being a law-abiding driver effectively impossible.

    I don't envy anyone trying to drive in roads like that, let alone people used to driving laws in another country who may be unfamiliar with how to safely navigate such situations.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    So my wife does most of our driving. She's a better driver. We both grew up near San Francisco. When we're in Texas I drive just because I'm familiar with the road layouts and the road etiquette (I've lived there, she hasn't). Even navigating I can't point stuff out fast enough. After being there a few weeks for a major conference, she finally caught on that my backseat driving was trying to get her to follow the local etiquette and get her around traffic (or more accurately, stop hanging out in the left lane and let people pass oh my gods) and suddenly we were moving faster.

    I can't imagine working for waymo and jumping from san francisco to austin to orlando to DC to podunk to manila to paris and trying to keep all the different locales' driving etiquettes in my head so i was not just driving legally but safely. i mean i'm good but i'm not that good.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    These are remote drivers though, who don't have legal license for the west. And my Indian coworkers who moved here, said it was an adjustment in patience and let the laneswitch, and dart out habits die.

    Although my one coworker I still don't like driving with, as it's a hold the roof handle type ride.

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