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[–] KingGordon@lemmy.world 197 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children) Oprah is a fkn blight on our country. She burdened us with dr oz and dr phil, two absolute pieces of shit. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 46 points 6 months ago (6 children) Do we know if Oprah is one too? I don't know much about her. But it seems shes been awfully close to a lot of horrible people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 71 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the bastards did a couple episodes on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 months ago (1 child) 6 I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago Well that kind of answers that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 34 points 6 months ago She's a monster enabler and opportunist. Not sure she's as horrible, but she definitely has narcissistic qualities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) That's not really the vibe I've gotten from her. I mean she has her fingers in a lot of horrific pies. Simply a blight unto the world. I've heard her called the mother of demons and frankly not far off. But from everything I've seen (so far) it's not that she's personally involved in any of this, it's just that she didn't give a shit. She wanted the ratings. She wanted the story. She didn't care if the story was true. She didn't care if the story had horrible consequences. She didn't care if people got hurt. She didn't care if her fans were literally handed to a rapist because of her stories. All she cared about was moving those dials and everything else was immaterial to her . She just doesn't give a fuck. Which might be worse. I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago (1 child) At some point, the realization kicks in that what you're doing is causing harm, no matter how far down the road. When you decide to keep going anyway, that's your moment of sitting at the table with the nazis. Doesn't matter if you're totally removed from the evil doings, you're helping, and you know you're helping. And you're okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago She may never get there because she doesn't support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn't promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what's happening because of the celebrities she promotes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* That the definition of a horrible person. Most of these people don't, for example, rape children because they're evil. They do it because it makes them feel powerful, and they don't care about the harm it does. Rarely are there people who's actions are actually inspired by doing harm. It's much more common for it to be done for their personal benefit and not giving a fuck about what happens to others. The other common form of evil is the banal kind. People who are just doing what they're told, not questioning it. They're told their doing things that are great for their nation/society, but they have horrible consequences for many people. They aren't doing it out of malice, but out of ignorance or complacency. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Catma@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the Bastards did some episodes on her. Might be relavent. Link to part 1 https://youtu.be/_K-90PIkbv8 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child) oh yea i remember some of the "poor" guests on her show complain that the cars she gave away were to expensive to afford(insurance, maintanance wise), oprah benefitted from that, either through have less taxes, or something. she likely planned it too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill. All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor's expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement. I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don't want, and can't afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago* maybe not, but she platformed all these people either on thier show, or through other means. shes an enabler/complicit at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Dr Oz and Dr Phil are because of Oprah permalink fedilink source parent [–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 child) She also platformed John of God, a South American mass rapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Oh shit I forgot about this one. Yeah that was pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent [–] wpb@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago Not to mention Oprah permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Jenny McCarthy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 46 points 6 months ago (6 children) Do we know if Oprah is one too? I don't know much about her. But it seems shes been awfully close to a lot of horrible people permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 71 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the bastards did a couple episodes on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 months ago (1 child) 6 I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago Well that kind of answers that. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 34 points 6 months ago She's a monster enabler and opportunist. Not sure she's as horrible, but she definitely has narcissistic qualities. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) That's not really the vibe I've gotten from her. I mean she has her fingers in a lot of horrific pies. Simply a blight unto the world. I've heard her called the mother of demons and frankly not far off. But from everything I've seen (so far) it's not that she's personally involved in any of this, it's just that she didn't give a shit. She wanted the ratings. She wanted the story. She didn't care if the story was true. She didn't care if the story had horrible consequences. She didn't care if people got hurt. She didn't care if her fans were literally handed to a rapist because of her stories. All she cared about was moving those dials and everything else was immaterial to her . She just doesn't give a fuck. Which might be worse. I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago (1 child) At some point, the realization kicks in that what you're doing is causing harm, no matter how far down the road. When you decide to keep going anyway, that's your moment of sitting at the table with the nazis. Doesn't matter if you're totally removed from the evil doings, you're helping, and you know you're helping. And you're okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago She may never get there because she doesn't support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn't promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what's happening because of the celebrities she promotes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* That the definition of a horrible person. Most of these people don't, for example, rape children because they're evil. They do it because it makes them feel powerful, and they don't care about the harm it does. Rarely are there people who's actions are actually inspired by doing harm. It's much more common for it to be done for their personal benefit and not giving a fuck about what happens to others. The other common form of evil is the banal kind. People who are just doing what they're told, not questioning it. They're told their doing things that are great for their nation/society, but they have horrible consequences for many people. They aren't doing it out of malice, but out of ignorance or complacency. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Catma@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the Bastards did some episodes on her. Might be relavent. Link to part 1 https://youtu.be/_K-90PIkbv8 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child) oh yea i remember some of the "poor" guests on her show complain that the cars she gave away were to expensive to afford(insurance, maintanance wise), oprah benefitted from that, either through have less taxes, or something. she likely planned it too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill. All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor's expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement. I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don't want, and can't afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago* maybe not, but she platformed all these people either on thier show, or through other means. shes an enabler/complicit at best. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Dr Oz and Dr Phil are because of Oprah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 71 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the bastards did a couple episodes on her. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 months ago (1 child) 6 I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago Well that kind of answers that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 43 points 6 months ago (1 child) 6 I think. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago Well that kind of answers that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 8 points 6 months ago Well that kind of answers that. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 34 points 6 months ago She's a monster enabler and opportunist. Not sure she's as horrible, but she definitely has narcissistic qualities. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) That's not really the vibe I've gotten from her. I mean she has her fingers in a lot of horrific pies. Simply a blight unto the world. I've heard her called the mother of demons and frankly not far off. But from everything I've seen (so far) it's not that she's personally involved in any of this, it's just that she didn't give a shit. She wanted the ratings. She wanted the story. She didn't care if the story was true. She didn't care if the story had horrible consequences. She didn't care if people got hurt. She didn't care if her fans were literally handed to a rapist because of her stories. All she cared about was moving those dials and everything else was immaterial to her . She just doesn't give a fuck. Which might be worse. I don't know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago (1 child) At some point, the realization kicks in that what you're doing is causing harm, no matter how far down the road. When you decide to keep going anyway, that's your moment of sitting at the table with the nazis. Doesn't matter if you're totally removed from the evil doings, you're helping, and you know you're helping. And you're okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago She may never get there because she doesn't support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn't promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what's happening because of the celebrities she promotes. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* That the definition of a horrible person. Most of these people don't, for example, rape children because they're evil. They do it because it makes them feel powerful, and they don't care about the harm it does. Rarely are there people who's actions are actually inspired by doing harm. It's much more common for it to be done for their personal benefit and not giving a fuck about what happens to others. The other common form of evil is the banal kind. People who are just doing what they're told, not questioning it. They're told their doing things that are great for their nation/society, but they have horrible consequences for many people. They aren't doing it out of malice, but out of ignorance or complacency. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 6 months ago (1 child) At some point, the realization kicks in that what you're doing is causing harm, no matter how far down the road. When you decide to keep going anyway, that's your moment of sitting at the table with the nazis. Doesn't matter if you're totally removed from the evil doings, you're helping, and you know you're helping. And you're okay with it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago She may never get there because she doesn't support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn't promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what's happening because of the celebrities she promotes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago She may never get there because she doesn't support the monsters just their work. She separates the output from the creator and uses that gap between celebrating a book/movie/etc from the terrible person responsible for it. In her mind she isn't promoting someone awful. She must be willingly blind to what's happening because of the celebrities she promotes. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago* That the definition of a horrible person. Most of these people don't, for example, rape children because they're evil. They do it because it makes them feel powerful, and they don't care about the harm it does. Rarely are there people who's actions are actually inspired by doing harm. It's much more common for it to be done for their personal benefit and not giving a fuck about what happens to others. The other common form of evil is the banal kind. People who are just doing what they're told, not questioning it. They're told their doing things that are great for their nation/society, but they have horrible consequences for many people. They aren't doing it out of malice, but out of ignorance or complacency. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Catma@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) Behind the Bastards did some episodes on her. Might be relavent. Link to part 1 https://youtu.be/_K-90PIkbv8 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child) oh yea i remember some of the "poor" guests on her show complain that the cars she gave away were to expensive to afford(insurance, maintanance wise), oprah benefitted from that, either through have less taxes, or something. she likely planned it too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill. All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor's expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement. I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don't want, and can't afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (1 child) oh yea i remember some of the "poor" guests on her show complain that the cars she gave away were to expensive to afford(insurance, maintanance wise), oprah benefitted from that, either through have less taxes, or something. she likely planned it too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill. All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor's expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement. I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don't want, and can't afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 6 months ago When she gave away those cars, she gave every one of those people a multi-thousand dollar tax debt that had to be paid on that car. If it was a $30,000 car, then she just saddled each of those audience members with a $10,000 tax bill. All she really did was force an audience of suckers to buy a sponsor's expensive new car, not of their choice, at a steep discount, as an advertisement. I go to the Oprah Show, and walk out with an expensive car I don't want, and can't afford, but better pay for or I can go to jail. Thanks Oprah. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago* maybe not, but she platformed all these people either on thier show, or through other means. shes an enabler/complicit at best. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prettybunnys@piefed.social 5 points 6 months ago Dr Oz and Dr Phil are because of Oprah permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 child) She also platformed John of God, a South American mass rapist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Oh shit I forgot about this one. Yeah that was pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tomiant@piefed.social 3 points 6 months ago Oh shit I forgot about this one. Yeah that was pretty bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago Jenny McCarthy permalink fedilink source parent