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this post was submitted on 05 Feb 2026
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The majority opinion seems to be that neither would stop the genocide, both would carry it out.
Agreed, Israel has too much control and is too interwoven with US foreign influence for either to stop it. Maybe if Mamdani ever made it to the big chair but we both know that will never happen as long as the DNC exists as it currently does.
Israel is not controlling the US, the US controls Israel. Israel has some counter-influence, but the US uses Israel to secure its interests in the region. Stopping it requires hitting imperialist profits directly.
I would have said yes in 2016 but since 2022 Netanyahu seems to exert considerable influence even when the electorate try to slow them down for fear of backlash. Now Israel does advance US foreign policy but I don't think Netanyahu is so tight on that leash, I believe he's doing it for the love of the game, so to speak.
Israel is a settler-colony. Total colonization of Palestine is its necessary end, which breeds resistance. The US supports it because Israel is a US millitary base at a country scale.
I agree with the structural point about Israel's role as a client state/base. My point is that within that structure, Netanyahu's government has become a highly volatile and agentic client, one that can create crises that even its patron struggles to manage. This changes the tactical landscape for opposition.
There's definitely counter-influence, but it doesn't outweigh the US's influence is my point.