cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/tankiejerk/p/635809/i-can-excuse-transphobia-and-covid-denial-but-i-draw-the-line-at-anti-communism-and-criticis
- Ever faithful Cowbee will tolerate transphobic admins because they're communist >
- PieFed is worse than transphobia because it's anti-communist >
- Nutomic will stop being transphobic by 2050.
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I think we should, but for different reasons. And let me explain. Economic systems, left or right are meaningless if you don't have access. Ie liberty. Fascists and Leninists will trample any class, quash every liberty in pursuit of their desired economic system. A system that serves their petit bourgeois.
Socialism while absolutely more beneficial to society than capitalism. Only benefits you if you are included in that society. Which only happens in inclusive societies focused on freedom of individuals. Socialism, capitalism, neither guarantee that themselves.
Oh, so an enlightened centrist has entered the chat. ๐
Literally no. Read again. I literally said socialism serves society better. Literally. The whole point being there are unsavory and authoritarians on the left.
I will entertain debate about the benefits of economic systems to a limited point. But not the inclusion of minorities, vulnerable, or other traditionally outcast groups. They must be included.
My comment had one point and you want to put my orientation aside because you find it inconvenient or you don't understand the topic?
Dafuq you even talking about? What I literally replied to, politely might I add was
Politely trying to nudge you into acknowledging that economics != freedom. The person you were replying to had a point, whether or not I agree with their reasons for making it. Economic systems don't care about social acceptance. You can have jackbooted socialists (ML) just like the fascists. Being technically socialist doesn't mean you are good. Having social acceptance does. Regardless of your economic leanings. Though those that are more accepting would tend to naturally be socialist. It isn't a hard concept.
So, my comment to NOT seperate minority issues from left wing ideology seems to be a little complex for you.