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A newborn baby has died in New Mexico from a Listeria infection that state health officials say was likely contracted from raw (unpasteurized) milk that the baby’s mother drank during pregnancy.

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[-] JustAnotherPodunk@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I am a dairyman. I've been fighting against this bullshit raw milk stuff for my entire career. I used to drink it. Mostly for convenience, I mean it's right there. And even ignoring listeria, e coli is no joke either. Every tank gets tests for salmonella, e coli, and others contaminates. If that threshold is exceeded, that tank won't be accepted and it goes down the drain. The checks for quality and safety are actually pretty impressive. I keep those numbers low. But it takes one stubborn bacterium to wreck your colon.

The one argument I've found that works is. "You don't hate pasteurization, you hate homogenization"

Turns out. Most people will agree with pasteurization if you explain it. What they want is that more natural, olde time feel of when the cream separates from the milk. That's an entirely different process. That process is called homogenization. It's literally a tool of making a consistant product. But it seems like a good portion of our population don't want that. And now here we are.

These folks want something to blame. And if I can reframe their concern into a situation that has them putting a quick boil on their thirty dollar a gallon raw milk and getting the perceived effect they wanted.... Well yeah.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

In my experience, raw and unhomogenized milk can be shaken and the cream mixes with the milk. Pasteurized unhomogenized milk separates and doesn't re-mix. If you buy whole milk that way (Stauss Organic) it's basically skim milk with a chunk of hard milk fat at the top, unless you warm it, then it turns to grease floating on top that no amount of whisking will incorporate. Why do people want this?

Just accept that modernity has given you safe, non-chunky milk. It's a good thing.

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