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But why? I was reading a fairly vacuous art history book and they drop all this knowledge and then do 0 analysis of it. Feels like they're saying "teehee, ain't it so quirky?" Their best guess was to counter Socialist Realism and to promote the US as an art powerhouse, a vision of artistic freedom!!! Is that the materialist interpretation?

E: Thanks for all the thoughtful responses. Genuinely. When I write that it sounds corporate, but I mean it

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[-] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

NY artists at that time was pretty anti-communist

Literally opposite of the truth. Mid-20th century NY artists and intellectuals were communists. Not necessarily pro-USSR, many Trots and anarchists, but certainly not anti-communist liberals. Many of them were harassed during the McCarthyist era.

a "counterculture" that wasn't actually counter to anything of substance.

Abstract Expressionism is partly, and very deliberately went against the capitalist realism of the 40s and 50s. Think about how the current alt-right slobbers over the nuclear family 50s style coca cola ads? Well, Abstract Expressionism is purposely against that kind of representative art. Simply countering it with the same style but with strong steelworkers instead of happy housewives would have been a weak response. They wanted a radical change.

Then the so-called counterculture definitely went against US conservative lifestyle in many ways, but they also actively organized against the Vietnam War and so on.

Now we can talk about how that strand of leftism was "misguided", infantile disorder etc., but thinking that Modern art and later the counterculture was some kind of CIA plot to divert the masses is just a ludicrous oversimplification.

Yeah they failed to bring revolution to the US. But what the hell are current Amerikkkans doing?

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