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I don't really understand reddit's angle here... Why would they provide zero cost API access to an app, as long as the developer of the app isn't making a profit? Are they trying to act like that was the issue they had with these third party apps? That they e profitable?
How does it make sense for them to allow an app for that reason?
That's what Narwhal dev had publicly offered previously, there's no firm confirmation that's actually the deal and I'd be a little surprised if it was.
I think Reddit chose to give them a sweetheart deal because they're the worst competitor app, the dev had been least publicly critical of the API changes, and Reddit wants the PR value of an example case "proving" their API changes weren't maliciously anticompetitive towards third-party apps.
The fact that Narwhal has struck a deal now allows Reddit Inc to say "see! we do work with third party apps; it's not that we're bad, it's that RIF and Apollo are big meanies who won't cooperate!"
If "cooperating" means getting bent over and shafted with a footlong dildo covered in rusty razor blades than I don't blame them one bit.
Indirectly, that was some of my point.
It looks strongly like one of two things has happened - either Narwhal took the knee and has accepted absolutely abysmal terms in order to remain in existence, or Reddit has offered them a better deal in private to keep them afloat - solely to use them as a PR example case.
The only thing that seems unlikely is that they're working under strict terms of the published agreement, otherwise IMO costs to users are functionally unfeasible.
Which raises another question: are analysts and investors so stupid that they can't read between the lines? Because this looks like using a bucket to douse a five-alarm fire.
From the infamous AMA: We’ll continue to be profit-driven until profits arrive. Unlike some of the 3P apps, we are not profitable.
To me it sounds that he is envious that 3rd party apps were profitable and Reddit isn't.
Maybe they shouldve tried to make their app better.
LOL I thought the same thing. "Have they considered... not sucking?"
@keeb420 crashes through window.
They could easily be profitable if they weren’t spending cash doing stupid shit to try and pump up their ‘value’.
They've been trying this entire time to reframe the argument into the app developers being the bad apples.
By getting one scab to exist, they can work at that angle now better than they could before.
Sounds like breaking a lot of laws by limiting api access to specific companies
It is not a public service. Deals are made between companies all the time, so I don't see how this would break the law.