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[-] DirtSona@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Abuse of these things is a core feature of capitalism. How can you contradict yourself so quickly?

[-] thenextguy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

The world is not black and white. I don’t accept the validity of your claim.

[-] Kepion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Shelter is a fundamental human need, locking it behind an unnecessarily high and ever increasing pay wall is the epitome of abuse. Landlords are leeches.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

You gotta look at the nuance here. Yes, high and ever increasing rent is bad and it's because of the abuse and poor regulation of the system. And traditional lords of the land is pretty bad however you slice it. But small landlords now can be providing a needed service. It's a lot of work keeping a house rentable - even if you are 'just' organizing contractors, accountants, lawyers, etc.

[-] thenextguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yes it is. But you and I both said it. It is abuse of capitalism.

I would support some idea that corporations cannot own property like single homes solely for the purpose of profit. And any single person should be heavily taxed on rental income, at least beyond a certain point.

And let’s use eminent domain to take back those empty houses and put people in them.

But there’s still lots of people who would prefer to rent than own.

The problem is not landlords. And the problem is not capitalism. The problem is unfettered greed. Greed is not good, despite what Michael Douglas said in that movie.

[-] DirtSona@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago

The world is not black and white. But still you will 100% keep your claim. Again. Contradict yourself in two sentences.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago

Capitalism is most definitely bad tho, like come on.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 2 days ago

Well, it's a way to incentivize people to use their resources to provide services for others. It would be nice if people just did that on their own, but humans are generally too lazy.

[-] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

This is not capitalism, this is a market based system, which can happen to exist outside of capitalism.

Capitalism is is the ownership of value by capital ( property of shares, housing etc.. gives you benefits because you own them, not because you provided value).

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In terms of housing, if one uses their resources to build a house for others to use, they need to retain ownership of that house in order to realize any return on their investment and maintain their ongoing providing of the housing service.

[-] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

In almost all cases, the owner does not build the house. Thats done by the masons, electricians, plumbers etc ... So the owner did not create value

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The owner organizes and pays the contractors do do the work. The owner buys materials. The owner makes it all happen, puts their money down. Without the owner being able to have the incentive to do all that, it doesn't happen.

[-] Prancingpotato@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Almost there. So the "value" provided by the owner is money. It is capital. Which is needed purely because of the system in place, that was the whole point all along.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Yes, they provide money (or some form of resource). And somebody/something has to provide that if the person who's going to live there can't. The capitalist system encourages people to do that. Otherwise the government has to. And governments generally are too big to do a good job (the people making the decisions don't care about the details, it becomes very inefficient). When people use their own money to try to make money, they tend to work out the most efficient way to do so. Of course, we need regulations so that the efficiency that the capitalist system brings benifits the goal of affordable, quality housing.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

humans are generally too lazy.

Citation needed.

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