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[-] cikano@lemmy.world 111 points 2 months ago

I'm surprised so many people are running defence for landlords in the comments

[-] hobovision@mander.xyz 36 points 2 months ago

Look I'll be honest, as a renter, I've not heard a realistic alternative that I like better. Do I think landlords should be better regulated? For sure. Do I think housing should be a right, and free, high quality housing should be available everywhere to anyone who wants it? Yes, please!

I like the option to rent a place that's even better than what the baseline option would be. I like that I can move around as I need to. I like that I can get a bigger, better, or just different, place when I have the funds. I like that I never have to deal with broken appliances or roof repairs and get to pick the type of place I want to live in.

[-] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Do it 1970s style. You own a home but pay less than half of what you do now. The extra savings go toward home maintenance and lifestyle improvement. You gain equity over time and actually get something for what you paid instead of lining someone else's pockets.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

It really depends on how often he is really using that "I want to move" option.

Various fees associated with the purchase of a houae will blow away likely equity gains over a year or two. Over a short time period housing can actually go down, and you sell for less than you paid. Selling the house is a potential exposure that may leave you stuck for months with it, and if you needed to immediately move, you have to own two properties and the associated taxes, insurance, and likely loan payment. If you had to borrow and moved within a year. The interest owed probably outpaced your theoretical equity gains.

So if you are only staying in one place for say 4 years or less, renting may actually make sense. If you are planning longer than that, purchasing almost always makes more sense.

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

The time cost, too. Huge hassle to buy, move, sell. Inspections, agents, viewings… big pressure end to end.

purchasing almost always makes more sense.

I remember the San Francisco Bay Area threw this old truism off when purchasing became so expensive, it was just about a wash whether you wanted to rent or buy.

These tiny little homes starting at a million bucks or something…

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[-] pipi1234@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
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[-] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

Why would you prefer a landlord to just you save that money yourself? Like at best its probably a third of your income if youre working class? At worst its probably 60% or more. If you're on any kind of social assistance rent is probably almost all of your income. Hurray! No food for you mister, the poor landlord needs that pittance you receive.

You would have effectively 133%-180% of the income you do now. For me that's an increase of over a thousand dollars a month. I could afford all the appliances and roof repairs in the world with that kind of money. I would still walk away with so much extra money its a joke. You have been entirely misled about how much rent takes out of your income. They will steal hundreds of thousands of dollars from you over your life time, maybe even more depending on what you pay.

Renting exists because renters cannot advocate for themselves. It exists because people who become land owners escape the renting class and pretty much immediately turn their backs on it. No longer their problem. Because propaganda has taught them to not have solidarity with their fellow workers. Homelessness is an entirely preventable issue and is inseparable from the problem of landlords.

[-] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago

I like the option to rent a place that's even better than what the baseline option would be. I like that I can move around as I need to. I like that I can get a bigger, better, or just different, place when I have the funds. I like that I never have to deal with broken appliances or roof repairs and get to pick the type of place I want to live in.

You are describing either a "land contract" or a "condominium". With either, you gain equity in the property.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Paying half if not more of your monthly salary for a shitty place to live is horse shit

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Vienna social housing model is what we need. Nearly 60% lives in public housing there.

https://youtu.be/MxuACFQBwxs

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[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A lot of these people are likely tech folks. A lot of tech folks get high paying jobs. They used that pay to buy rental property.

A lot of these guys are landlords and are trying to convince people that the rent they charge is fair, market rate, and a favour because they're taking on "risk" while you pay for their mortgage.

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[-] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 months ago

I'm not lol. .world is basically Reddit 2.0, warts and capitalists included 😆

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[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

Hey I'm not really worried, my landlord is actually really cool. The place I live in is actually better than the place he lives in. My rent is well well below market rate for what I should be paying. I lived in the same place for the past 11 years and he's only raised my rent twice for less than $200 total. Not all landlords are bad, not all of them are in it just to get rich. And not all of us would be able to buy a house regardless of paying rent or not. And I'd much rather pay rent to somebody for a nice place to live then be living in a tent by the river.

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Damn, you're right. It's like how I'm not worried about wealth inequality because I lucked out and have a steady 60k a year job with a nice employer. Not all employers are bad.

Or how I don't give a shit about abortion because I made the stone-cold choice to not be a woman.

When things aren't affecting me they don't matter so why are people making a big deal about it?

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Think the point being it's nuanced, there are valid rental scenarios. So when someone sees renting shouldn't be a thing at all, they can be understandable put off, exactly the same way you are put off by someone saying they actually have a good renting scenario.

Renting should be an option, but housing stock shouldn't be slurped up by big firm either. There needs to be reasonable path to ownership as well as choices to rent. Depending on the area, the balance is of off one way or the other.

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