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[–] 16 points 8 months ago (19 children)

France has horrible laws for encryption, so how much do you want to bet this thing doesn't have e2ee.

This is an Intel operation

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

    Zoom has poor encryption. I have seen targeted ads a day after discussing very specific chemical reagents on zoom.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, it was definitely that and not all the web browsing and searching you and your colleague did before, during, and after the meeting, and the meeting notes you sent over gmail/microsoft mail. 🙄

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This tool is developed for France's administration, not for the public. They host the servers. So I don't think e2ee is indeed a requirement.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Shouldn't it be the other way around? I'd expect e2ee to be a requirement for anything for the administration even if their laws are a little funky (rules for thee not for me, etc).

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago
    1. A tool used by a state employer only wouldn't need e2ee, since they hold all the servers.
    2. The French government has long been trying to make encryption in use by its citizens inspectable by them (the French government)
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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Its FOSS (or I guess FLOSS for this case since they are French lol), meaning it doesn't matter if the people creating the app are "good" or "bad" actors. A "good" actor can always create a fork or host their own instance.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    French people are literally not able to fork it and add e2ee without the government's permission.

    France requires government approval for exporting any software with crypto

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    We like to think EU abandoning tech companies will create a new privacy FOSS ecosystem, when in reality they will likely just recreate their own Tech corps like China and US now that they have skin in the game

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