▲ 32 ▼ Choosing the VPN That's Right for You (ssd.eff.org) submitted 6 months ago by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/privacy@lemmy.world 28 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 13 points 6 months ago* (4 children) There are only three good ones, in no particular order: IVPN Mullvad Proton Any other VPN used is a mistake. permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children) I've used AirVPN for over a year now. No complaints. Mullvad stopped port forwarding so had to swap. Recently moved email to proton so might move VPN over soon too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) There's a reason why I didn't mention Air instead of those three I named: All three I named are the following: Free Software (libreware, despite being SaaS) Outside 5-Eyes and 9-Eyes AES-256 Audited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) So which one of these criterias are not met by AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It isn't Free Software from what I took a look at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I think it’s good idea to not put all your eggs in one basket, so having a different vpn provider from your email would be safer. Up to you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This is something else that crossed my mind. Not like the $20 a year or whatever is going to break my bank paying separately.... permalink fedilink source parent [+] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) AzireVPN is the best in my opinion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) I've never heard about it. I just took a look, and it's from the Malwarebytes guys. My issue with it is that it's proprietary, save for a lone BASH script that happened to be under GPL-2.0, which allows for tivoization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) They're Swedish, but the company was bought by Malwarebytes later on What piece of software are you talking about ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) Azire in particular. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago Centralization and monoculture is a mistake. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children) I've used AirVPN for over a year now. No complaints. Mullvad stopped port forwarding so had to swap. Recently moved email to proton so might move VPN over soon too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) There's a reason why I didn't mention Air instead of those three I named: All three I named are the following: Free Software (libreware, despite being SaaS) Outside 5-Eyes and 9-Eyes AES-256 Audited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) So which one of these criterias are not met by AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It isn't Free Software from what I took a look at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent [–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I think it’s good idea to not put all your eggs in one basket, so having a different vpn provider from your email would be safer. Up to you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This is something else that crossed my mind. Not like the $20 a year or whatever is going to break my bank paying separately.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 8 points 6 months ago (1 child) There's a reason why I didn't mention Air instead of those three I named: All three I named are the following: Free Software (libreware, despite being SaaS) Outside 5-Eyes and 9-Eyes AES-256 Audited permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) So which one of these criterias are not met by AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It isn't Free Software from what I took a look at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ElectroLisa@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago (1 child) So which one of these criterias are not met by AirVPN? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It isn't Free Software from what I took a look at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 child) It isn't Free Software from what I took a look at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What isn't free software..? I think you should make it clear if you are talking about VPN services or client-side apps here. If they provide normal standard protocols like Wireguard and OpenVPN, they can be used without having to install any provider-specific apps. Regardless of provider it's generally preferred to use third-party software to connect. VPN providers that don't even have their own apps don't qualify as good for you either? Demanding the whole stack be FLOSS is a bit silly in this context. None of the ones you mentioned open-source most of their backend systems either AFAIK. I think you should do your homework better before you speak so widely and absolutely dismissively with such claim of authority. It is not helpful. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] scytale@piefed.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 child) I think it’s good idea to not put all your eggs in one basket, so having a different vpn provider from your email would be safer. Up to you though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This is something else that crossed my mind. Not like the $20 a year or whatever is going to break my bank paying separately.... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This is something else that crossed my mind. Not like the $20 a year or whatever is going to break my bank paying separately.... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Jack_Burton@lemmy.ca 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) AzireVPN is the best in my opinion permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) I've never heard about it. I just took a look, and it's from the Malwarebytes guys. My issue with it is that it's proprietary, save for a lone BASH script that happened to be under GPL-2.0, which allows for tivoization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) They're Swedish, but the company was bought by Malwarebytes later on What piece of software are you talking about ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) Azire in particular. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) I've never heard about it. I just took a look, and it's from the Malwarebytes guys. My issue with it is that it's proprietary, save for a lone BASH script that happened to be under GPL-2.0, which allows for tivoization. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) They're Swedish, but the company was bought by Malwarebytes later on What piece of software are you talking about ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) Azire in particular. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) They're Swedish, but the company was bought by Malwarebytes later on What piece of software are you talking about ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) Azire in particular. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] msokiovt@lemmy.today 0 points 6 months ago (1 child) Azire in particular. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) What piece of software are you talking about ? Azire in particular. Azire what? They're a Wireguard VPN provider with a web portal. I guess same confusion as here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/23696262 You give the impression that you are talking about the VPNs when you are actually talking about smartphone apps..? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 6 months ago Centralization and monoculture is a mistake. permalink fedilink source parent