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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by znsh@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

Got into a discussion with a friend who is a biologist about the "human nature" argument against communism. My best shot was saying that we used to live in a sort of proto communism so the evidence of it working are there. He didn't accept that argument and basicly said that due to natural selection, competition etc. and that all social structures eventually disolve.

I didn't have good ideas on how to respond after that.

EDIT: Forgot the question, how could I have defended this argument more?

EDIT2: I read each and every comment anyone posts, I just can't respond to all of you, thanks so much for the explanations it really goes to show how awesome this community is.

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[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do they think that's how modern society still operates? Do they think that's how modern society ought to operate? If you make them spell it out you can probably already see where it leads.

The competitions we have aren't natural and often just a sham anyway. And in the international competitions we see (both sports and economical) socialist countries regularly wipe up the floor with capitalist countries.

Another thing about competition is that it doesn't bring out a general ideal, it brings narrow specialisation that you can't really expect to be generally suitable under changing conditions.

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