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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by znsh@lemmygrad.ml to c/asklemmygrad@lemmygrad.ml

Got into a discussion with a friend who is a biologist about the "human nature" argument against communism. My best shot was saying that we used to live in a sort of proto communism so the evidence of it working are there. He didn't accept that argument and basicly said that due to natural selection, competition etc. and that all social structures eventually disolve.

I didn't have good ideas on how to respond after that.

EDIT: Forgot the question, how could I have defended this argument more?

EDIT2: I read each and every comment anyone posts, I just can't respond to all of you, thanks so much for the explanations it really goes to show how awesome this community is.

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[-] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago
[-] znsh@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

Fuck sorry I hit post without writing it. Edited the post.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

So what's their criticism of communism? Why would ambition be incompatible with communism?

What role does natural selection play according to your friend?

[-] znsh@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Their initial response was that every communist project has failed, to which I replied that it was due to imperialist forces like the US rigging elections or generatic and support coups.

He didn't elaborate a lot on it, I just kind of stopped the discussion there as I wasn't sure how to answer him.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 3 points 6 days ago

Ok but that's just the default dialog tree. I was hoping for new angles.

[-] znsh@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah he didn't really provide that, and I'm also not that good yet at pushing for answers.

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