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[+] -7 points 7 months ago (14 children)

If we're fine with resorting to violence to get what we want, we're no better than them. If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same...

BUT, this doesn't mean we should never, ever resort to force as a final, last, desperate act, but only when there's no other option.

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    As with Batman, the number only remains the same if you only kill one murderer. Kill two, and that’s a net positive!

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I dunno man, killing a genocidal maniac makes someone a hero in my book.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I’d say we throw that hypothetical person a parade. During which, they are presented with various awards, and accolades. Definitely an honorary doctorate somewhere too. We would then of course need to nominate that person for a Nobel peace prize—and I’d bet they’d win.

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  • [+] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)
  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    It was defeated by rebuilding the country afterwards. A lesson we learned from the aftermath of WWI that seems to have been forgotten.

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  • [+] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    If you kill a murderer, the number of murderers in the world remains the same...

    Lmfao, you really cannot be serious with this kind of reasoning, right?

    If you are serious, here's an equally as ingenuous counter argument:

    • If you kill two murderers or more you will have effectively reduced the number of murderers in the world...
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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    There’s an argument that murder is unlawful killing of another human. If ending the life of a murderer is done lawfully, the number is m-1.

    I am not claiming that I support this theory, just putting it into the discourse as a thing that some folks could easily believe.

    Also, it’s semantics as the argument you’re making still perfectly holds if the word murderer is swapped for ‘killer’

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