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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Not even that, just too on the nose.

But a lot of people do join up for citizenship, the shitty part is it gets slow-walked so people end up needing to re-enlist at least once before they can gain citizenship.

It's one of these weird quirks of today, like, if trump ever does deploy the military to do what ICE is doing, it's going to be non-citizens detaining US citizens...

I served with people whose only citizenship was Nigeria, Ghana, and a lot of the Caribbean countries, but I think they're pretty lax on what countries can join. A guy in my boot camp was a Russian ex-cop who was in his late 30s and barely spoke English, I'm pretty sure he didn't even live in the US before boot camp.

I was curious and looked it up, right now 40k US military members are not citizens:

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48163

So about 2% of the US military, not huge, but not zero either.

[-] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Isn't there some thing where you get citizenship after serving in military?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Same source says 110k non-citizen veterans, so not all get it.

Like I said, the process often takes longer than a single four year enlistment. They may have legal right to stay here, but not full citizen. And would just rather get out and become a citizen another way.

The military kind of sucks bro...

[-] DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Ya I know. I just think it's a way to get immigrants, especially brown ones, to sign up. I also think it's a large reason why there's a lot of immigrants being let in America lately, as American citizens don't want to go to regime change warts for corporations anymore, and are tired of watching the ones that do, die from suicide.

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