I've got two domain names set up for work and personal email, but I'm absolutely drowning in unread emails, around 4,000. Most are those annoying notifications like "Your security code is xxx," "Your parcel has shipped," and requests to rate my experience.

Right now, I've been trying out Inbox Zero with an old Gmail account. It's cool, but honestly feels a bit overkill and only works with Gmail and Outlook. I switched to my own domains to get away from Google in the first place!

So, I’m on the hunt for an email provider that has solid SPAM filters and can create a priority inbox without all the pesky notification clutter. Bonus points if it supports custom domains.

Any suggestions?

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[+] -12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s just ad-bait. Proton will hand your ass over to whatever authorities.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago

    That's the thing though, you don't need to trust them, you trust public key cryptography. And unless the NSA has secretly solved that, Proton cannot hand anything to anyone, because they can't access anything but encrypted data.

    If the NSA solved that, they don't need Proton's cooperation, they can just intercept the encrypted traffic directly.

    You don't need to trust Proton inherently, all their apps are open source and you can verify the encryption yourself. They hold your encrypted data and you hold the keys.

    The only thing they could be lying about is keeping VPN logs, but there's no credible reason to believe they are. They do annual third-party audits of their infrastructure to confirm no logs, but if you're depending strictly on VPN to hide data you think the government is interested in, you're doing it wrong.

    They cannot hand over your emails, because they don't have the keys. But email is an inherently insecure communication method, and any email you send to a non proton recipient is visible to that recipient's provider.

    They can see the subject line and the recipient's address, because they need to know where to transfer the email and send notifications with the subject line, but they are transparent about that.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Are you basing this on anything? I agree with another poster that proton being the go to alternative is somewhat suspect in my paranoid brain but some of these remark here seem pretty outlandish.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/proton-mail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/18191

    Before that: https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/

    There are many, many more cases we don't hear about in media.

    If you consistently connect to Proton via I2P or tor and don't link a phone number or tracable recovery mail, you're covering up at least some of the juicy metadata.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Thanks for the links, the recovery email aspect was covered in the initial comment old mate was replying to. I was more interested in if the hand your ass over remark had anything to do with the “they cant read your emails”/encryption part. The second link is very interesting though:

    After providing the activist's metadata to Swiss authorities, ProtonMail removed the section that had promised no IP logs, replacing it with one saying, "ProtonMail is an email that respects privacy and puts people (not advertisers) first."

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 child)

    Auhorities in other European countries are known to MitM SSL certs at VPS providers for years already. Switzerland is moving their legislation towards the EU direction. Proton themselves have been vocal about their concerns about this.

    How long until someone realizes they can demand Proton to inject some extra JS into the webmail for desired targets? Folks in a sensitive situation should follow the established best-practice of not relying on remotely served JS for client-side encryption. To be safe against this vecor, handle your encryption and signing outside of the webmail; either in your own client or copy/pasting.

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    Just drop it (both of you)...at this point you're just a sea lion and a troll exchanging messages.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    Also, sealioning is “just asking questions” (JAQ’ing off). Consistently interrogating a position or POV for example, with requests for evidence. Not asking someone to provide some sort of evidence for a single claim they made in reply to another user and refusal to find said evidence for them.

    Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning ) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter

    Emphasis mine. From wiki. I appreciate the attempt to deescalate though and accept it’s probably time to pack it in with that particular user.

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