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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world to c/perchance@lemmy.world

The bot makes every male character be a smug bully bullshit, no matter what I'm putting on the character description. Also, I can't seem to try to have a chill roleplay without the bot putting on a sudden dark violence scene.

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[-] justpassing@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Alright, assuming you are using AI Chat, prompt his character description as follows:

  • Name: Rob
  • Race: Cyclops
  • Appearance: Tall, very slim, blue skin, single magenta colored eye. Lanky frame, pink hands, large head and medium-length auburn hair that partially covers his face. Wears red shorts, a yellow crop-top T-shirt, and dark orange shoes.
  • Personality: Outgoing, sociable, easy-going, and enthusiastic.
  • Source: The Amazing World of Gumball

The reason why your character is always a bully and you are locked into violence is this:

...and kick him down a manhole, he shows that he can easily forgive by temporarily catching their DVD from the sewers. However, he also demonstrated a sense of entitlement, resentment, and irritability, initially being argumentative...

This new model is not like Llama where you can leave stuff in the background for "later" or as a "explanation". Whatever that exist on any entry will be used when relevant, and due to the model bias, you are forcing yourself into your character reacting as you described there.

Now, if you REALLY need the "got kicked in the ass and will be irritable and resentful", you can have it when you deem appropriate by adding it on the personality when you consider it proper, but remember that under the new model lenses, a nice character cannot exist in a world that is not nice to it, locking you in a bad route.

If you really wish to lock the model further, write a small interaction with your Character before letting it loose in the world. You see how the default character templates include some Narrator or Character lines, nothing stops you from giving you a head start where you force a nice interaction of you and the Character before the model takes on.

Hope this helps, and good luck in your runs.

[-] MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Just extra info on the bug:

The bot usually starts well, being friendly as he is told to be, and around the 4th message, the bot suddenly turns smug and sometimes even agressive to my character.

[-] justpassing@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Okay, the it is the "luck of the draw". Keep in mind that this model has its own bias, so the less "evidence" it has, the more it will try to pull you to a state you many not want.

If for some reasons in your logs this happens at the mark of the fourth post, that means that the context you are giving it is 1/4 likely to link your contents to a story you don't want. Simply erase that message and reroll until you get something that you like. That will reduce the random chance of derailing as you progress.

Keep in mind that this all depends on how much allow the model to modify your run and how many "tools" you give it. A nice character cannot exist in a "violent world". And since the bias is elsewhere, if you allow an "evil" character and you try to "convert it", unless you do some heavy workarounds, the model will resist as it will not make sense in the context.

The opposite is true, after the last updates, if your story is too nice oriented, you won't be able to turn them "organically" into a violent run unless you explicit add the violence. And even then, there are chances of the model returning you to sunshine and rainbows.

Maybe you are trying to go for a realistic story where there is a balance between the two, the problem is that the model will refuse to do this and just stick with the run at hand, so the best approach for this is to actually have the story in mind and only let the model fill the gaps via all the "What happens next" and reminder boxes.

Hope that helps, if you have a more particular problem, do ask, there are a million of workarounds with the current model, and since we were forced to it, best we can do is adapt.

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