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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

I have an nb friend who's Finnish. They prefer "It" as a pronoun. I had to explain that as a white native english speaker, we have shat the bed waaayyy too hard to use that one in our language.

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[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 25 points 8 months ago* (7 children)

I mean, in casual spoken finnish, "it" dominates. The third person singular for people "hän" is already gender neutral, but I guess we prefer not to make assumptions about anyone's personhood :D. Or maybe it (se) just rolls off the tongue more conveniently.

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[–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Also funnily enough many people use "hän" when talking about pets and other animals whilst still using "se" when talking about people. "Hän" feels a bit stiff and formal when talking about people.

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[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

“Hän” feels like thee thou in English to me, way too old timey and formal.

It (se) is neutral and relaxed

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[–] stray@pawb.social 5 points 8 months ago

"Thou" is actually the informal alternative to "you". It came to be seen as insulting and its usage was dropped.

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[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

Yeah, I think it's to make sure that the animal in question is being recognized as an individual, whereas for people that's taken for granted.

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[+] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 1 point 8 months ago

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[–] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago

I think it has a lot to do with how it conjugates, "sen" and "sillä" is quicker than "hänen" and "hänellä".

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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 8 months ago

Yah, i get why they prefer using it and in Finnish it's fine. In English it's....Very much not. It's a dehumaniser. Was an interesting conversation.

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[–] JesusChristLover420@lemmy.sdf.org -5 points 8 months ago

Tell your friend a follower of Christ who speaks native English says "it" is valid.

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