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What the fuck is up with the .programming side of the federation? (hexbear.net)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Some of the very worst of the worst liberal takes, apologia for fascist shit, and of course cryptobro grifts and even Tesla worship keep coming from there. It's fucked.

I don't want to say all programmers or tech workers are like that, but I don't like what I've seen so far from people with a .programming suffix on their names. disgost

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Engineers are vastly over-represented among extremists

The researchers found that the over-representation of engineers held true in other contexts. Of the 40 jihadists who studied at universities abroad, 27 were engineers. In another data set, comprising 71 extremists who were born or grew up in Western countries, 32 were engineers.

The relationship extended beyond Islamist movements to other extremist groups. Violent neo-Nazis and neo-Stalinists in Russia and neo-Nazi and white-supremacist groups in the United States also showed disproportionate numbers of engineers.

The article lists some possible theories for why this is: distaste for ambiguity, certainty thinking, etc.

Here's an earlier version of the paper

Here's a later version of the paper

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I think this probably vastly overcomplicates the issue. 'extremists' in this article seems to refer mostly to terrorists or terrorist group members/leaders.

Why would engineers be overrepresented in terrorists or terrorist groups? Because they have the engineering knowledge to make bombs, tell others make bombs, or to do infrastructural damage. It seems a fairly straight forward mechanism of causation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Because they have the engineering knowledge to make bombs, tell others make bombs, or to do infrastructural damage. It seems a fairly straight forward mechanism of causation.

so is the assumption here ISIS or whatever is gonna turn down your application if you're an accountant or something

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

That is not the assumption. You're obviously less likely to be involved any crimes labelled as 'extremist' or 'terrorist' if your skills lie in accountancy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Well yes, all the position get filled by engineers apparently. I just don't think it's because they're more useful, I don't think the ISIS recruitment program is that sophisticated

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