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German politician has her segment cut short for saying that Ukraine had a better peace plan on the table in 2022 (tankie.tube)
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/talks-could-have-ended-war-ukraine | Archived

At the first meeting, the Russians presented a set of harsh conditions, effectively demanding Ukraine’s capitulation. This was a nonstarter. But as Moscow’s position on the battlefield continued to deteriorate, its positions at the negotiating table became less demanding. So on March 3 and March 7, the parties held a second and third round of talks [...]

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240428/ukraine-rejected-2022-peace-deal-over-russian-language-status--banning-nazism-terms---welt-1118153431.html

Regarding territorial issues, parts of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions of Donbass would remain under Russian control

Moscow ostensibly wanted Kiev to slash the size of its army to 85,000 people, while Ukraine insisted on retaining a strength of 250,000.

Edit: Replaced "reporter" with "politician" in the post title

Edit2: Changed title from "microphone cut" to "segment cut short" in the title

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[–] 29 points 11 months ago (11 children)

lol. Should've known the dastardly Russians were behind everything all along.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    I mean they would be stupid not to support radical parties in their oppositional democracies. It just speed runs democracies natural tendencies to decay into fascism.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    So you've now moved the goal post from supporting far right parties to "radical" parties. Interesting.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    The far right isnt a radical party?

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    No because western Europe and Amerikkka are fascist as fuck. Radical would be outside the norm. But please accuse me of pedantry again.

    countdown

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Are you claiming that all "democratic" nations are inherently fascist nations at any point of their economic/political development?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Did I say all? No I was pretty specific.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    And what differentiates a fascist western "democracy" from a non fascist democracy.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago*

    Dictatorship of a different class? This is fundamental Marxist theory, states are a dictatorship of one of several classes. You can't have democracy for the proletariat (vast majority of people) in a state that is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (small, powerful minority). Note: "dictatorship" of a class means that a state is organized to advance the interests of that class, not "dictatorship" as in "opposite to democracy" or "governed by one person".

    Therefore, even in principle liberal "democracies" cannot be democratic. It's not a decay of democracy, it's an impossibility for it to have ever existed in those cases.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I hear far more about how ”we need to spend all our money on weapons and fuck the poor, because of Russia!” all over European media, and find it much more worrying than any supposed Russian influence. Europeans are capable of being reactionary without scary Russia telling them to it: some of the most Russophobic countries in Europe like Poland, the Baltics and Finland have popular far-right parties.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago

    Europeans are capable of being reactionary without scary Russia telling them to it: some of the most Russophobic countries in Europe like Poland, the Baltics and Finland have popular far-right parties.

    I'm not arguing they don't? I'm just saying that it behooves them to support far right parties in these countries just as it benefits the US to support radical parties in places like Cuba or Venezuela.

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