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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It makes me wonder if there's a deeper reason besides the real estate thing, that compels CEOs to try to bring workers back to the office.

Consider: If you're at the office, you form stronger attachments to your coworkers. You're more likely to make friends with them and so on. You create bonds. Another way to say this is: you create ties that bind you to your job.

Now, you could use all those extra commute hours to make friends with non-coworkers, and then you don't lose much in terms of social life. But if you did that, you'd want more time with those friends. You'd have bonds that pull you away from your job instead of into it. There's a reason employee satisfaction surveys always ask if you have any friends at work.

If you have the time and motivation to form friendships outside of work, you're going to want more time outside of work. And things like 4-day work weeks. And unions will help you get more time away from work, too.

CEOs don't want you to form bonds outside of work. Only inside of work. Marry your job, they say. Come worship here, as it is a church.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That makes so much sense.

My pre pandemic job was amazing because of the people I worked with. They were great fun and we would also go out together at the weekend.

After lockdown load sof people moved on to higher paid roles as did I.

My last 2 jobs have been friendless, even the hybrid one because even if you're in the office, others are out so you're still not forming relationships.

It would have worked better if it was an "everybody works from home Monday and Friday" but that removes all the flex..

Today in my remote job I have no work friends, but I also got a dog, spend loads of time with my new friends (neighbours who also have dogs), am completing a full time degree while working full time bacuse I have no commute and generally I'm significantly happier.

My house is actually tidy too because my 5 min breaks are tidy up breaks rather than piss about distracting someone else breaks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You have totaly a point there.

I am working in cultural heritage, so creating bounds that last over jobs is crucial. Who are you on good terms with? Who has a strong opinion on topic x? Who could help you with that non profit project? Who can you take seriosly and who is a scammer?

Working with these kind of people can be so amazing.

But cultural heritage is passion driven, a lot of ways to burn out in that feld or do unpaid work. The silent war against big companies is hard.