▲ 599 ▼ Jack Dorsey Releases Vine Reboot Where AI Content Is Banned (futurism.com) submitted 9 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 134 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 95 points 9 months ago (3 children) Not if I use AI to hide my use of AI first! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 39 points 9 months ago (3 children) They are going to implement an AI detector detector detector. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 26 points 9 months ago (1 child) It’s detectors all the way down. But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago But then they'll implement an AI detector detector deflector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] urandom@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Trace busta busta? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago This one permalink fedilink source parent [–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 12 points 9 months ago Fun fact, this loop is kinda how one of the generative ML algorithms works. This algorithm is called Generative Adversarial Networks or GAN. You have a so-called Generator neural network G that generates something (usually images) from random noise and a Discriminator neural network D that can take images (or whatever you're generating) as input and outputs whether this is real or fake (not actually in a binary way, but as a continuous value). D is trained on images from G, which should be classified as fake, and real images from a dataset that should be classified as real. G is trained to generate images from random noise vectors that fool D into thinking they're real. D is, like most neural networks, essentially just a mathematical function so you can just compute how to adjust the generated image to make it appear more real using derivatives. In the perfect case these 2 networks battle until they reach peak performance. In practice you usually need to do some extra shit to prevent the whole situation from crashing and burning. What often happens, for instance, is that D becomes so good that it doesn't provide any useful feedback anymore. It sees the generated images as 100% fake, meaning there's no longer an obvious way to alter the generated image to make it seem more real. Sorry for the infodump :3 permalink fedilink source parent [–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Spoken like a true AI. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 39 points 9 months ago (3 children) They are going to implement an AI detector detector detector. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 26 points 9 months ago (1 child) It’s detectors all the way down. But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent [–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago But then they'll implement an AI detector detector deflector. permalink fedilink source parent [–] urandom@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Trace busta busta? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago This one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] henfredemars@lemdro.id 26 points 9 months ago (1 child) It’s detectors all the way down. But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 child) No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 11 points 9 months ago Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago But then they'll implement an AI detector detector deflector. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] urandom@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 child) Trace busta busta? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 2 points 9 months ago This one permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gerryflap@feddit.nl 12 points 9 months ago Fun fact, this loop is kinda how one of the generative ML algorithms works. This algorithm is called Generative Adversarial Networks or GAN. You have a so-called Generator neural network G that generates something (usually images) from random noise and a Discriminator neural network D that can take images (or whatever you're generating) as input and outputs whether this is real or fake (not actually in a binary way, but as a continuous value). D is trained on images from G, which should be classified as fake, and real images from a dataset that should be classified as real. G is trained to generate images from random noise vectors that fool D into thinking they're real. D is, like most neural networks, essentially just a mathematical function so you can just compute how to adjust the generated image to make it appear more real using derivatives. In the perfect case these 2 networks battle until they reach peak performance. In practice you usually need to do some extra shit to prevent the whole situation from crashing and burning. What often happens, for instance, is that D becomes so good that it doesn't provide any useful feedback anymore. It sees the generated images as 100% fake, meaning there's no longer an obvious way to alter the generated image to make it seem more real. Sorry for the infodump :3 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago Spoken like a true AI. permalink fedilink source parent