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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

no it usually refers to whatever the fuck the person posting it seems to think it is, there is not a coherent label for it.

Why are you letting libs define everything? You and I both know they're dumbasses and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Oh cool, which societies use those?

Anyone could have said the same to Marx about communism at any point in his life, as he died before the October revolution.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone could have said the same to Marx about communism at any point in his life, as he died before the October revolution.

the difference is you named a bunch of dead ideologies that will never be revived, ML is literally the only form of marxism still flourishing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Speculation and also not relevant.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

how is that speculation, its material; Im only interested in ideologies with proven merit.

Im willing to take a chance of a synthesis on a new idea, but it has to actually offer people something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's speculation because you don't know what the future holds. And just because you're not interested in a particular ideology or don't think it has merit doesn't make it any less communist.

My only point is that words do in fact have meaning, Marxist-Leninism is not synonymous with communism. Therefore, one can be anti-tankie without being anti-communist.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

You can be, but that would be called 'idealism' and no one outside of western liberal spheres will take you seriously.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

"Orthodox Marxists" can hardly be said to exist, because the classical formulation of Marxism has long been empirically refuted, hence the need for new schools. Even Luxembourgists are more respectable than "Orthodox Marxists".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

have you confused the internet for a court room?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, just trying to have a rational, good faith discussion.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your position is idealist and neither rational nor good faith - don't expect others to meet you with merits your position lacks.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't see how acknowledging that other branches of communism and Marxism exist is idealism, bad faith, or irrational.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because you only advocate for ideas that dont exist in reality, and deride actually existing marxism as 'tankie', you can continue to advocate for idealist positions, but it requires you to build a coherent movement around it otherwise its just masterbation and contrarianism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not what you've done, though, is it? If you're unable to describe your own arguments, how can you possibly hope to engage with other people?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Why are you letting libs define everything? You and I both know they're dumbasses and shouldn't be taken seriously.

Yeah I'm sure everyone in the lemmyverse is using the word tankie to refer to those of us who support the 1956 Soviet intervention in Hungary /s