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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It’s not exclusive to being in an office. You just need to adapt to a new work style.

I've spent 2 years in WFH during COVID and haven't seen this working in any of the teams (even though there were attempts).

One problem is just that remote calls suck a lot, especially if you have latency and audio issues. People talking over each other, then saying "sorry" and waiting 20 seconds, audio too high or low or just poor quality etc. A lot of it could be solved with technology, but weirdly it hasn't happened yet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's crazy how people have been talking on the phone for like a hundred years and talking over each other was something that was easy to work out.

But put the same technology on a computer and suddenly people forgot how to talk on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Phone has usually lower latency than internet. Consequence of circuit vs. packet switching.

But otherwise I hate phone as well. Miserable audio quality.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Group calls weren’t the norm until recently. I fucking despise group zoom calls. I normally will just not contribute at all because it’s impossible to be heard. Someone else will always talk over you. This is the 3rd team I’ve worked remote on, and it hasn’t worked on any of them so far.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've spent longer than that and I'm not sure where the issue is. It works fine for us. Perhaps it's a US thing with poor internet quality?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm in the US and haven't had any issues with being remote and calling a coworker to chat for a bit. It's not any different than using a phone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nah I'm in the US. Garbage internet provider. No issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Idk, I leverage Slack huddles regularly and have absolutely no issues with multiple people hanging out and having casual conversations while working. We do these spontaneously throughout the day.

How old are your coworkers generally? My company is mostly on the younger side of things. We grew up with team speak, steam voice chat, and now are often in discord. This is not unfamiliar territory and has always worked well outside of the office.