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[+] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (9 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago (3 children) I've done jobs where I was legally not allowed to leave people unsupervised, so if my relief was late, I couldn't go home. I feel like that's also an exception to the 'late is fine' rule. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) And generally the exceptions boil down to "you being late is affecting a fellow worker". Office jobs, which is most likely what these Gen z are referring to, is very different from rotating shift work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago Oh, absolutely. That's why I referred to it as being an exception to the rule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Doesn't even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (4 children) And I think that if there are no considerations in place to compensate me (no overtime is not enough, overtime is the bare minimum) in the event that I need to stay late; 10 minutes late is just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jve@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) overtime is the bare minimum What is it that you think would be reasonable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn't be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 point 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you're asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can't tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 months ago (3 children) I've done jobs where I was legally not allowed to leave people unsupervised, so if my relief was late, I couldn't go home. I feel like that's also an exception to the 'late is fine' rule. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) And generally the exceptions boil down to "you being late is affecting a fellow worker". Office jobs, which is most likely what these Gen z are referring to, is very different from rotating shift work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago Oh, absolutely. That's why I referred to it as being an exception to the rule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Doesn't even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children) And generally the exceptions boil down to "you being late is affecting a fellow worker". Office jobs, which is most likely what these Gen z are referring to, is very different from rotating shift work permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago Oh, absolutely. That's why I referred to it as being an exception to the rule. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Doesn't even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 2 points 11 months ago Oh, absolutely. That's why I referred to it as being an exception to the rule. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 point 11 months ago Doesn't even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (4 children) And I think that if there are no considerations in place to compensate me (no overtime is not enough, overtime is the bare minimum) in the event that I need to stay late; 10 minutes late is just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] jve@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) overtime is the bare minimum What is it that you think would be reasonable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn't be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 point 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you're asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can't tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jve@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago* (3 children) overtime is the bare minimum What is it that you think would be reasonable? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn't be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 point 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you're asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can't tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn't be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 1 point 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you're asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can't tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start. permalink fedilink source parent