this post was submitted on 23 Aug 2023
1110 points (88.2% liked)

Memes

45908 readers
1522 users here now

Rules:

  1. Be civil and nice.
  2. Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The new use will struggle while the old use remains popular

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I believe that was the original intent of the word, just wondering if it's essentially defunct because of how it's used now.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The term (or the term whataboutery, which it emerged from) was originally used by pro-British newspapers during the troubles to complain that when people would whine about IRA activities others would respond by pointing out that their direct opposition, the British, were committing atrocities.

It's always been a tool for Western hegemony to avoid criticism and accusations of hypocrisy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow that was definitely an enlightening read on the etymology, so the word was fucked from the get go haha..

Sean O’Conaill (1976) - 'I would not suggest such a thing were it not for the Whatabouts. These are the people who answer every condemnation of the Provisional I.R.A. with an argument to prove the greater immorality of the “enemy”, and therefore the justice of the Provisionals’ cause: “What about Bloody Sunday, internment, torture, force feeding, army intimidation?”. '

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Your willingness to change in the face of evidence is a breath of fresh air, thank you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I see, my mistake, though from a descriptivist standpoint a meaning that a word long-since lost and one that it never had are virtually the same thing on a functional level