β² 819 βΌ Spain restarts push to kill daylight saving time in EU (www.politico.eu) submitted 10 months ago by nemeski@mander.xyz to c/europe@feddit.org 195 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[β] urandom@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago (7 children) They should obviously keep standard time. No one wants light at 10pm!!! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 14 child comments replies: [β] khannie@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (4 children) I would 100% rather light at 10pm than 4am where it's totally wasted. Current light breakdown in Ireland over the year: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always forget how far north a lot of Europe is. The fact Dublin is further north than most Canadian major cities throws me for a loop permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yeah it's one of those weird map oddities that's more noticeable on a globe. We are mega fucked here if the gulf of Mexico ever stops sending us that warm water goodness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago You mean the Gulf of America? /s Gulf of release the Epstein files permalink fedilink source parent [β] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* It's actually the Atlantic Ocean arm of the Oceanic Conveyor Belt bringing to Europe warm waters from Africa. The only relation with the Gulf Of Mexico is that the western side of that current (which goes in the opposite direction, so North -> South, along the Eastern Northern and Southern America) passes alongside it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Literally the plot of "The Day after Tomorrow" although the movie is ridiculously over the top of course permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago Idk what you want since you're only getting about 4 hours of night in the summer. You gotta just waste some daylight when you live that far north permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* DST basically robs you of useful outdoors time in summer. Want to spend some time outside after work? You canβt because of the scorching hot sun. Thanks to DST itβs time for bed by the time it has cooled down enough to be outside. Of course by then itβs still too hot to sleep so youβre fucked anyway. By the time it has cooled down enough to sleep itβs almost time to get up again. If we want to move the clock then we should move it backwards in summer instead of forwards. That way we get more time in the evening where itβs nice to be outdoors, we get to sleep when it has cooled down a bit more. In the morning the sun would be up earlier but blackout curtains solve that issue, and temperature lags behind the sun anyway so we get to sleep in the least hot part of the night. DST is the worst invention ever. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago nah, I want to see the stars without having to stay up late, and light until 10pm would mess with my body's schedule permalink fedilink source parent [β] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 10 months ago No one wants light at 10pm!!! I do permalink fedilink source parent [β] urandom@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago I stand corrected. People seem to love evening sunlight permalink fedilink source parent [β] ranzispa@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago I live in Spain, having light at 11 pm is pretty cool. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You live in the western end of your time zone, and at a pretty high latitude. That's the only way to get sunset after 10pm. Your summer sunrise must be about 3am. And you must only see about 5 hours of daylight during winter. If you are experiencing sunset 2 hours before midnight, the eastern end of your time zone is experiencing sunrise two hours after midnight. Nobody wants sunrise at 2am. I would say that you should not be in your time zone. Your region should be in the next time zone to the west. Their DST schedule is your standard time schedule. Alternatively, there is nothing stopping the eastern end of your time zone from joining the next zone to the east, so that their year-round clocks make more sense for them. Any viable plan to lock the clocks is going to have to include provisions for our regions to select the time zone we want to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) They don't have to be far west for sunset at 22 (with DST as I think you missed), just far enough north. With 6 hours of night in the summer, the centre of the timezone will have nighttime from 22 to 4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude, and doesn't include places like Iceland that don't observe DST. The population density above 59Β° is a rounding error above zero. The only place to reach it in the southern hemisphere is Antarctica itself and a few islands. Their votes and opinions certainly count, but the rest of the world should not be forced to use a bad time system just to appease the very few who live that high. Especially when they have other alternatives available to resolve their problem. The overwhelming majority of people who experience this effect of DST are on the west end of their current time zones at a much lower latitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg would like a word... permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude What are you on about? Iβm at 52ΒΊ North and from May 20th until the 25th of July there is no night at all. Best we get is about 3 hours of astronomical twilight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Remember to default to "they" and not "he" for people with unknown pronouns and unknown gender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago My bad, fixed. Thanks for keeping me vigilant. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago It is a bit more complicated. Back in the time (no pun intended) they made a mess by putting most of Europe in one time zone, from west of Spain to east of Poland. Which is 9Β° west to 28Β° east, more than 2 and a half time zones. Technically, Europe should split into at least two time zones. And this is going to be a mess. permalink fedilink source parent [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Light at 10pm isn't useful, but neither is light at 4am Dawn at 5:30 or later would be best permalink fedilink source parent
[β] khannie@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (4 children) I would 100% rather light at 10pm than 4am where it's totally wasted. Current light breakdown in Ireland over the year: permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always forget how far north a lot of Europe is. The fact Dublin is further north than most Canadian major cities throws me for a loop permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yeah it's one of those weird map oddities that's more noticeable on a globe. We are mega fucked here if the gulf of Mexico ever stops sending us that warm water goodness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago You mean the Gulf of America? /s Gulf of release the Epstein files permalink fedilink source parent [β] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* It's actually the Atlantic Ocean arm of the Oceanic Conveyor Belt bringing to Europe warm waters from Africa. The only relation with the Gulf Of Mexico is that the western side of that current (which goes in the opposite direction, so North -> South, along the Eastern Northern and Southern America) passes alongside it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Literally the plot of "The Day after Tomorrow" although the movie is ridiculously over the top of course permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent [β] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago Idk what you want since you're only getting about 4 hours of night in the summer. You gotta just waste some daylight when you live that far north permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* DST basically robs you of useful outdoors time in summer. Want to spend some time outside after work? You canβt because of the scorching hot sun. Thanks to DST itβs time for bed by the time it has cooled down enough to be outside. Of course by then itβs still too hot to sleep so youβre fucked anyway. By the time it has cooled down enough to sleep itβs almost time to get up again. If we want to move the clock then we should move it backwards in summer instead of forwards. That way we get more time in the evening where itβs nice to be outdoors, we get to sleep when it has cooled down a bit more. In the morning the sun would be up earlier but blackout curtains solve that issue, and temperature lags behind the sun anyway so we get to sleep in the least hot part of the night. DST is the worst invention ever. permalink fedilink source parent [β] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago nah, I want to see the stars without having to stay up late, and light until 10pm would mess with my body's schedule permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) I always forget how far north a lot of Europe is. The fact Dublin is further north than most Canadian major cities throws me for a loop permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yeah it's one of those weird map oddities that's more noticeable on a globe. We are mega fucked here if the gulf of Mexico ever stops sending us that warm water goodness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago You mean the Gulf of America? /s Gulf of release the Epstein files permalink fedilink source parent [β] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* It's actually the Atlantic Ocean arm of the Oceanic Conveyor Belt bringing to Europe warm waters from Africa. The only relation with the Gulf Of Mexico is that the western side of that current (which goes in the opposite direction, so North -> South, along the Eastern Northern and Southern America) passes alongside it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Literally the plot of "The Day after Tomorrow" although the movie is ridiculously over the top of course permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] khannie@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children) Yeah it's one of those weird map oddities that's more noticeable on a globe. We are mega fucked here if the gulf of Mexico ever stops sending us that warm water goodness. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago You mean the Gulf of America? /s Gulf of release the Epstein files permalink fedilink source parent [β] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* It's actually the Atlantic Ocean arm of the Oceanic Conveyor Belt bringing to Europe warm waters from Africa. The only relation with the Gulf Of Mexico is that the western side of that current (which goes in the opposite direction, so North -> South, along the Eastern Northern and Southern America) passes alongside it. permalink fedilink source parent [β] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Literally the plot of "The Day after Tomorrow" although the movie is ridiculously over the top of course permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago You mean the Gulf of America? /s Gulf of release the Epstein files permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago* It's actually the Atlantic Ocean arm of the Oceanic Conveyor Belt bringing to Europe warm waters from Africa. The only relation with the Gulf Of Mexico is that the western side of that current (which goes in the opposite direction, so North -> South, along the Eastern Northern and Southern America) passes alongside it. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Literally the plot of "The Day after Tomorrow" although the movie is ridiculously over the top of course permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago The movie takes a real mechanism, a plausible concern, then cranks the intensity of the issue to eleven and uses that exaggerated catastrophe as foundation for its setting. It's absurd in magnitude, but not in premise. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BakerBagel@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago Idk what you want since you're only getting about 4 hours of night in the summer. You gotta just waste some daylight when you live that far north permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago* DST basically robs you of useful outdoors time in summer. Want to spend some time outside after work? You canβt because of the scorching hot sun. Thanks to DST itβs time for bed by the time it has cooled down enough to be outside. Of course by then itβs still too hot to sleep so youβre fucked anyway. By the time it has cooled down enough to sleep itβs almost time to get up again. If we want to move the clock then we should move it backwards in summer instead of forwards. That way we get more time in the evening where itβs nice to be outdoors, we get to sleep when it has cooled down a bit more. In the morning the sun would be up earlier but blackout curtains solve that issue, and temperature lags behind the sun anyway so we get to sleep in the least hot part of the night. DST is the worst invention ever. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 point 10 months ago nah, I want to see the stars without having to stay up late, and light until 10pm would mess with my body's schedule permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Anivia@feddit.org 12 points 10 months ago No one wants light at 10pm!!! I do permalink fedilink source parent
[β] urandom@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago I stand corrected. People seem to love evening sunlight permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ranzispa@mander.xyz 9 points 10 months ago I live in Spain, having light at 11 pm is pretty cool. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) You live in the western end of your time zone, and at a pretty high latitude. That's the only way to get sunset after 10pm. Your summer sunrise must be about 3am. And you must only see about 5 hours of daylight during winter. If you are experiencing sunset 2 hours before midnight, the eastern end of your time zone is experiencing sunrise two hours after midnight. Nobody wants sunrise at 2am. I would say that you should not be in your time zone. Your region should be in the next time zone to the west. Their DST schedule is your standard time schedule. Alternatively, there is nothing stopping the eastern end of your time zone from joining the next zone to the east, so that their year-round clocks make more sense for them. Any viable plan to lock the clocks is going to have to include provisions for our regions to select the time zone we want to use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) They don't have to be far west for sunset at 22 (with DST as I think you missed), just far enough north. With 6 hours of night in the summer, the centre of the timezone will have nighttime from 22 to 4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude, and doesn't include places like Iceland that don't observe DST. The population density above 59Β° is a rounding error above zero. The only place to reach it in the southern hemisphere is Antarctica itself and a few islands. Their votes and opinions certainly count, but the rest of the world should not be forced to use a bad time system just to appease the very few who live that high. Especially when they have other alternatives available to resolve their problem. The overwhelming majority of people who experience this effect of DST are on the west end of their current time zones at a much lower latitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg would like a word... permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude What are you on about? Iβm at 52ΒΊ North and from May 20th until the 25th of July there is no night at all. Best we get is about 3 hours of astronomical twilight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Remember to default to "they" and not "he" for people with unknown pronouns and unknown gender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago My bad, fixed. Thanks for keeping me vigilant. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children) They don't have to be far west for sunset at 22 (with DST as I think you missed), just far enough north. With 6 hours of night in the summer, the centre of the timezone will have nighttime from 22 to 4. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude, and doesn't include places like Iceland that don't observe DST. The population density above 59Β° is a rounding error above zero. The only place to reach it in the southern hemisphere is Antarctica itself and a few islands. Their votes and opinions certainly count, but the rest of the world should not be forced to use a bad time system just to appease the very few who live that high. Especially when they have other alternatives available to resolve their problem. The overwhelming majority of people who experience this effect of DST are on the west end of their current time zones at a much lower latitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg would like a word... permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude What are you on about? Iβm at 52ΒΊ North and from May 20th until the 25th of July there is no night at all. Best we get is about 3 hours of astronomical twilight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent [β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Remember to default to "they" and not "he" for people with unknown pronouns and unknown gender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago My bad, fixed. Thanks for keeping me vigilant. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago (2 children) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude, and doesn't include places like Iceland that don't observe DST. The population density above 59Β° is a rounding error above zero. The only place to reach it in the southern hemisphere is Antarctica itself and a few islands. Their votes and opinions certainly count, but the rest of the world should not be forced to use a bad time system just to appease the very few who live that high. Especially when they have other alternatives available to resolve their problem. The overwhelming majority of people who experience this effect of DST are on the west end of their current time zones at a much lower latitude. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg would like a word... permalink fedilink source parent [β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude What are you on about? Iβm at 52ΒΊ North and from May 20th until the 25th of July there is no night at all. Best we get is about 3 hours of astronomical twilight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago Stockholm, Helsinki, St. Petersburg would like a word... permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) "far enough north" for this effect is above 59Β° latitude What are you on about? Iβm at 52ΒΊ North and from May 20th until the 25th of July there is no night at all. Best we get is about 3 hours of astronomical twilight. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago* (1 child) What you have to realise is that according to them, half of Europe is a rounding error when it comes to discussing Europe specific problems. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) DST is hardly specific to Europe. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 1 point 10 months ago Have you seen the com and post you are in? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Remember to default to "they" and not "he" for people with unknown pronouns and unknown gender permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago My bad, fixed. Thanks for keeping me vigilant. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] bumblefumble@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago My bad, fixed. Thanks for keeping me vigilant. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago It is a bit more complicated. Back in the time (no pun intended) they made a mess by putting most of Europe in one time zone, from west of Spain to east of Poland. Which is 9Β° west to 28Β° east, more than 2 and a half time zones. Technically, Europe should split into at least two time zones. And this is going to be a mess. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago Light at 10pm isn't useful, but neither is light at 4am Dawn at 5:30 or later would be best permalink fedilink source parent