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What use to be the PPA that allowed Ubuntu users to use native .deb packages for Firefox has recently changed to the same meta package that forces installation of Snap and the Firefox snap package.

I am having to remove the meta package, then re-uninstall the snap firefox, then re-uninstall Snap, then install pin the latest build I could get (firefox_116.0.3+build2-0ubuntu0.22.04.1~mt1_arm64.deb) to keep the native firefox build.

I'm so done with Ubuntu.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out VanillaOS. I think it's pretty neat. Their webpage doesn't really get into the benefits as much as I think they should, but a very quick summary is that it leverages distrobox and some custom package manager to allow you to seamlessly install and run packages from other distros. It's also kind of an immutable OS (but not really). It lets you pick which types of apps you want during the install (snaps, fltapak, AppImage, etc)

I am not super in the loop about why people are so against snaps, but I don't like the centralized nature of them, and if that's also the general concern, then flatpak should be fine, since it's decentralized.

I saw a couple youtube videos about VanillaOS; I could certainly find you one of them if you want to know more.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you say it's "not really" immutable? It is immutable with an A/B partitioning system using ABRoot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can disable it to install stuff if you want.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was true with Almost, but they've now switched to ABRoot, which uses overlays instead. https://documentation.vanillaos.org/docs/ABRoot/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

rpm-ostree does this longgg way before

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

True, but how is that relevant? ABRoot has its own benefits and drawbacks over OSTree.