Hello PCMR community!
On July 13th, we asked the community for your opinion if you would like to change the name of this community.
Results of the Survey :
- Yes - 28.1%
- No - 71.9% (winner)
Of the 1,201 responses received, we as a community have democratically decided that we should not change the name from PC Master Race. I am grateful to our community for your input, as this was a difficult topic to navigate together.
If you would like to review the history of this, please check out this post here: https://lemmy.world/post/1430610
We'll pin this post for some time and then consider adding a bullet into the sidebar for this Community to help stave off further discussions around this topic as the community has already decided collectively.
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EDIT 30-Aug-2023:
Due to some of the recent targeted attacks against Lemmy.world, I noticed that the image I shared with this post was purged from their servers.
Here's a new screenshot of the results for posterity: https://i.postimg.cc/jqNg5gWx/pcmrsurvey.png
the problem isn't that it's offensive to console gamers it's that it's offensive to people in groups (jewish, queer, communist, Russian) who the Nazis killed over 12 million of, jesus why is this so hard to understand
Because it feels like those groups would have to go out of their way to find the offense when they, themselves, should see that it is mocking the Nazis. It seems baffling that making fun of the Nazis would be offensive to their victims.
I'm not 100% confident on this topic, even with a majority poll saying it's okay. Main issue for me is, imagine it was a (white) comedian making a casual joke about the N word. Many have tried, certainly. But those jokes, besides not being tremendously funny, normalize some of the minority-degrading terms they refer to.
you're asking for a lot of mental gymnastics from those of us in marginalised groups, to ignore the more obvious interpretation that it's a joke at the expense of the people the Nazis tortured and killed. If you find yourself needing to explain how a joke isn't actually promoting Nazism maybe it's time to retire it.. Zero Punctuation had some good lines, this wasn't one of them.
I find myself having war crimes explained to me and how they are tangentially related to what is at hand. The holocaust is genuinely a tragedy but the only thing connecting it and a joke about PC inferiority/superiority complex are only connected in your perspective. Using your own metric, your point is very subjective and not clear.
I'm sad you don't get the joke or appreciate it like the rest of us. Why this alone gives you the right to take our fun is beyond me.
No, what's connecting the two is the use of term "master race", a literal piece of Nazi ideology... which also makes war crimes more than tangentially related.
If your "fun" is causing marginalised people to feel bad then you're punching down, and you need a better sense of humour.
Are marginalized? Or are you white knighting this and defending others? Because it sounds a lot like you absolutely do not understand the humor at hand and you can't get past a surface level similarity.
my sibling in christ, the only reason for the use of "master race" is its Nazi history, that's the only cultural reference it is making.
and yes, i am someone that the Nazis would have tried to exterminate. are you? otherwise, consider the idea that it is not your place to be arguing in favor of jokes about Nazi ideology.