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I've largely given up on pull requests.... for sake of sanity. But I waded back in...
I made a pull request today... and I very strategically choose to do it with minimal of features so that it would just go through... and I got lectured that JOIN is never a concern and that filtering based on the core function of the site (presenting fresh meat to readers) was a bad use of the database. I've never seen hazing on a project like this. Memcached and Redis should be discussed every day as "why are we not doing what every website does?", but mum is the word.
That's quite concerning. Would you have a link to that PR? Curious to see the exchange
I already feel like I have to keep sticking my neck out to get them to question if using the ORM and a dozen JOIN statements isn't a problem.... but I guess I'll link it: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/3900
As stated on my Lemmy user profile, I'm "RocketDerp" on GitHiub.
Honestly, the reason I keep making noise is because I'm sick of Lemmy crashing all the time when I come to use it... and I am on many servers that this happens. I really am not trying to piss off the developers, I even said I felt like I am being hazed, and I feel like hazing in general might explain what is going on with how much they are avoiding the elephant in the ROOM that ORM and a dozen JOIN might be the cause! Let alone the lack of Redis or Memcached addition being avoided, that's a second elephant on the second floor tap-dancing.... GitHub Issue 2910 was the straw that broke my back weeks ago, it took months for them to address it when it could be fixed in a couple hours (and it was weeks before the Reddti API deadline at the end of June.... and issue 2910 was neglected). The whole thing was a nightmare for me to watch...
your comments there are exceptionally aggressive. you accuse the developers of “hazing” you when they disagree with a technical decision you’ve made, and then insult them, posting wild rants. i’ve seen you do this many times. you need to step back, relax, and not take technical feedback so personally
To be fair, I think he has a point.
The way to convey it is very much debatable, but the poor database performance of Lemmy seems to be what puts LemmyWorld down so often.
As LW is the biggest instance so far, it's a bit concerning for the potential scaling of instances
agreed. but lashing out at developers who are just trying to find out why the db performance is subpar with accusations of “hazing” is incredibly aggravating and antithetical to the entire concept of FOSS. there is a reason why almost every open source organization uses codes of conduct
As I said, very debatable 😄
I've stepped back and watched them ignore the issue since May when all the servers were crashing. Every single Lemmy server was falling over while they ignored the PostgreSQL problems.
The mistakes are obvious and huge. These are not minor topics.
I think they are hazing the entire World Wide Web, Reddit users, etc. How else can you explain such basic SQL problems that they have allowed to go on for so long?
Its' as if the mere concept of Redis or Memcache never existed... and that nobody ever heard of JOIN performance problems. If it isn't extreme social hazing, what is it?