I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] 24 points 11 months ago* (13 children)

Yeah, you can go with a Linux phone but forget about:

  • controlling any IOT device
  • using any smart watch/sport trakcer
  • Android Auto or any remote car features
  • mobile banking
  • authenticating at work
  • buying public transport tickets from your phone
  • using apps for boarding pass when flying
  • charging your car at most public chargers
  • using any type of digital ID or documents

If you're already a luddite that's awesome, you're free to move to Linux phones. If you like modern tech and the convenience it gave us it will be really fucking sad to lose all of it because or corporate greed.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    The best way is freeing Android. Android should be the "Mobile Linux". What should happen is that EU should ensure that people are allowed to side load and unlock bootloaders and that all apps are compatible with alternative ROMs. All dependencies on google play services should simply be made illegal and all apps should be fully compatible with AOSP.

    If we can't get this we will spend the next 10-15 years in mobile dark ages. Mobile Linux may never get enough tracking to be supported the way desktop Linux is.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Manufacturers aren’t going to ditch Google. Play Store and Google certification are too valuable for them.

    If legislation is made such that eg.: in the EU phones can not be registered in the cellular network unless they are open to both normal installation of apps (sIdElOaDiNg) and being able to fully install or remove Google Services, then Google will have to deal with who would want to work and pay to get a certification that effectively blocks you from selling and operating in one or more continents.

    And such legislation would be not without precedent: open phones and custom ROMs are already suffering from it.

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I will admit I'm ignorant here. What do companies use Google Play Services for? I developed some Android app and I never had to rely on Google. I just used F-Droid. Other than play store for distribution, which services provided by Google would be so hard to replace?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Someone will have to cave in if we want to break this stupid proprietary duopoly.

    Honestly that's not a chicken-and-egg problem. Only one party of the two in this example has the power to create or change apps, whereas people in this example, even if they would use Linux, they effectively are prevented from.

    The "someone" who has to cave in is obvious.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I used to run an LTE-enabled nettop instead of a phone during the app-only craze, can't get any worse than that. Recently removed bank apps, taxi, delivery, maps, youtube, email and all social media apps off my phone in favour of using websites instead. They're still a bit of an afterthought compared to apps so the experience is a bit clunky, but the option is available for most things nowadays.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Some things yes. I don't have any social media apps (not even lemmy) or YT but my car charger requires an app, my AC has an app I use from time to time, my Garmin GPS has an app, I have to use MS Authenticator at work, my car has an app and Android Auto and 90% of public car charges require an app. None of this has website alternative. Can I live without them? Well, not without work obviously and where I live electric car infrastructure is so tied to mobile phones I'm seriously considering just giving up and going back to a normal car.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Most of this i don't use my phone for anyway. I'll use my current android phone for the rest, if needed.

    Still going to wait and see if the Eu makes a move, but i won't go back to fascist enabling corps.

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