▲ 1229 ▼ Google's shocking developer decree struggles to justify the urgent threat to F-Droid (www.neowin.net) submitted 11 months ago by ardi60@reddthat.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 298 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Photuris@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Ubuntu Touch works well on my fairphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Very cool! I'm thinking of going for ubuntu touch, seeing as Android has proven that it's no longer worth the time investment. Also, Fairphone 5 is my next phone if the current one dies, so it works out. Could you share what do you really like about it? And what is your biggest gripe or letdown with it? Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago It's using Hallium, which is still using Android kernel and drivers, hopefully they can keep that up while vendors are getting increasingly antagonistic. It is private. If you want to run some android apps you can use waydroid, but it torches the battery. If you want to run arm linux apps, you need to dork around with containers as the root os is RO. I'm sitting on the fence of shelling out for a decen FP permalink fedilink source parent [–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) Beats me! I'm in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone in preparation for a Linux one. These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices. Depends on your bank. Most work on alternate OS (like GrapheneOS), and of course some don't. https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ If an app (especially bank) doesn't work, I forward them this and try to ELI5 that their current method is flawed and less secure: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] progandy@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago Which is fine and all, but then you still have to run a release built and signed by the grapheneos devs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org 13 points 11 months ago Reverse the question: Which bank can be used with a linux phone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I'm in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone Go on... How are you doing so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Going for plastic when paying instead of using a digital wallet, using the banks' websites for transactions instead of the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mobile apps should only ever be used for check-scanning or for features that the online banking simply doesn't allow (which would be messed up of the bank to do); same with mobile wallets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 9 points 11 months ago (2 children) Ubuntu Touch works well on my fairphone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Very cool! I'm thinking of going for ubuntu touch, seeing as Android has proven that it's no longer worth the time investment. Also, Fairphone 5 is my next phone if the current one dies, so it works out. Could you share what do you really like about it? And what is your biggest gripe or letdown with it? Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago It's using Hallium, which is still using Android kernel and drivers, hopefully they can keep that up while vendors are getting increasingly antagonistic. It is private. If you want to run some android apps you can use waydroid, but it torches the battery. If you want to run arm linux apps, you need to dork around with containers as the root os is RO. I'm sitting on the fence of shelling out for a decen FP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Very cool! I'm thinking of going for ubuntu touch, seeing as Android has proven that it's no longer worth the time investment. Also, Fairphone 5 is my next phone if the current one dies, so it works out. Could you share what do you really like about it? And what is your biggest gripe or letdown with it? Thanks! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago It's using Hallium, which is still using Android kernel and drivers, hopefully they can keep that up while vendors are getting increasingly antagonistic. It is private. If you want to run some android apps you can use waydroid, but it torches the battery. If you want to run arm linux apps, you need to dork around with containers as the root os is RO. I'm sitting on the fence of shelling out for a decen FP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago It's using Hallium, which is still using Android kernel and drivers, hopefully they can keep that up while vendors are getting increasingly antagonistic. It is private. If you want to run some android apps you can use waydroid, but it torches the battery. If you want to run arm linux apps, you need to dork around with containers as the root os is RO. I'm sitting on the fence of shelling out for a decen FP permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago (6 children) Beats me! I'm in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone in preparation for a Linux one. These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices. Depends on your bank. Most work on alternate OS (like GrapheneOS), and of course some don't. https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ If an app (especially bank) doesn't work, I forward them this and try to ELI5 that their current method is flawed and less secure: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] progandy@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago Which is fine and all, but then you still have to run a release built and signed by the grapheneos devs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] plyth@feddit.org 13 points 11 months ago Reverse the question: Which bank can be used with a linux phone? permalink fedilink source parent [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I'm in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone Go on... How are you doing so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Going for plastic when paying instead of using a digital wallet, using the banks' websites for transactions instead of the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mobile apps should only ever be used for check-scanning or for features that the online banking simply doesn't allow (which would be messed up of the bank to do); same with mobile wallets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 child) These things will very likely not work on non-proprietary devices. Depends on your bank. Most work on alternate OS (like GrapheneOS), and of course some don't. https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/ If an app (especially bank) doesn't work, I forward them this and try to ELI5 that their current method is flawed and less secure: https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] progandy@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago Which is fine and all, but then you still have to run a release built and signed by the grapheneos devs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] progandy@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago Which is fine and all, but then you still have to run a release built and signed by the grapheneos devs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] plyth@feddit.org 13 points 11 months ago Reverse the question: Which bank can be used with a linux phone? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I'm in the process of moving banking and payment off my phone Go on... How are you doing so? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Going for plastic when paying instead of using a digital wallet, using the banks' websites for transactions instead of the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mobile apps should only ever be used for check-scanning or for features that the online banking simply doesn't allow (which would be messed up of the bank to do); same with mobile wallets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Going for plastic when paying instead of using a digital wallet, using the banks' websites for transactions instead of the app. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mobile apps should only ever be used for check-scanning or for features that the online banking simply doesn't allow (which would be messed up of the bank to do); same with mobile wallets. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Prathas@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago Oh, yeah, absolutely. Mobile apps should only ever be used for check-scanning or for features that the online banking simply doesn't allow (which would be messed up of the bank to do); same with mobile wallets. permalink fedilink source parent