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Ladybird Browser Gains Cloudflare Support to Challenge the Status Quo (linuxiac.com)
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[–] 24 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Here's one theory: https://drewdevault.com/2025/09/24/2025-09-24-Cloudflare-and-fascists.html

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Anyway, Omarchy and Ladybird are both run by fascists. Omarchy makes this pretty obvious from the outset – on the home page the big YouTube poster image prominently features SuperGrok, which is a pathetically transparent dog-whistle to signal alliance with Elon Musk’s fascist politics. Omarchy is the pet project of David Heinemeier Hansson, aka DHH, who is well known as a rich fascist weirdo.2 One need only consult his blog to browse his weird, racist views on immigration, fat-shaming objections to diverse representation, vaguely anti-feminist/homophobic/rapey rants on consent, and, recently, tone-policing antifascists who celebrate the death of notable fascist Charlie Kirk.

    Speaking of tributes to Charlie Kirk, that brings us to Andreas Kling, the project lead for Ladybird, who tweeted on the occasion of his assassination:

    RIP Charlie Kirk

    I hope many more debate nerds carry on his quest to engage young people with words, not fists.

    – @awesomekling

    I was not prepared to learn these things today.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    most people outside the us have never heard any of kirk's talking points. if you only know that he is a conservative debater and use your normal (non-us) definition of "conservative", then "people should not die for their opinions" is not a controversial take. i'm not saying that's what's happened here but it's the most likely situation considering klings history.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I definitely wouldn't expect people to have heard of Kirk at all. Even within the US he was a bit of a niche asshole. But I would expect that before posting "RIP he was a good guy" they would do some quick web searches and get an idea of what somedude was about and then only post if they agreed that that's their notion of a good guy.

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Honestly, Firefox has been stable AF and forks are doing awesome work. Maybe those forks might even continue doing their own thing by the time this project will be ready for beta testing.

    Competition is great but this one's on already on shaky ground.

    I'm rooting for Servo more than these fascist wannabes.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    The argument on Kling seems pretty weak to me… is he Fascist because… he doesn’t support violence and an assassination? 🙄

    By this logic for being not fascist one must support the death penalty?

    I am pretty sure fascists are in favour of violence and murder (in fact the person cited was killed by a fascist)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    RIP Charlie Kirk

    I hope many more debate nerds carry on his quest to engage young people with words, not fists.

    "carry on his quest". What was Charlie Kirks quest again? Where does he say he doesn't support violence and assassination? Are you Klings PR?

    I am pretty sure fascists are in favour of violence and murder (in fact the person cited was killed by a fascist)

    Just because fascists kill fascists doesn't make spreding hate less fascist. Does your definition of fascists only start when they start shooting people on sight?

    People like kirk were revelling in current administration. But since they didn't "use violence", they must've been innocent in all this trend, huh?

    Honestly there's a reason fascists are on the rise. People like you seem too oblivious to see the subtle narrative of spreading hate by casual undertones.

    But hey, you do you. I hope you take up his quest as well.

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  • [+] -15 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Jesus, what a reach for two projects run by normal dudes.

    The open source community is filled with people on the left side trying to bring down people they disagree with. You can tolerate them, or fork away and leave their "shitty project run by fascists" instead of witch hunting and name calling anyone you dissagree with

    fascists guy: has an opinion

    leftist guy: wants to witch hunt a guy for his opinion amd get him kicked out of his own project

    like it or not, who's being fascist? you know it well.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hey, hi, trans person here. Calling my mere existence "political" is not "just an opinion". Rejecting a PR to change "he" to "they" in some code comments is also just a stupid hill to die on. No singular they is basically baby's first edgy opinion.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Sorry which are we talking about the rejected the PR, DHH or kling?

    I suspect its DHH just making sure

    Edit: Found it

    Kling rejected with: “This project is not an appropriate arena to advertise your personal politics.”

    For SerenityOS documentation to use a singular they to not assume gender.

    Edit 2: For the record, this is even more stupid than you think. The documentation was written with gendered language for a male reader only in mind.

    "Hey, I fixed your bad writing"

    "POLITICS?!1?!%?!"

    The tweet about Kirk has some firm context with this. I'd call it pretty dang likely that kling is a fan....

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You yourself are tagging the fascist guy as a fascist. Not all opinions are just opinions.

    Who's the real fascist?
    The one you tagged as such.

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  • [+] -7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm labeling him that to make clear the irony of the situation

    the supposedly "fascist" guy: has an opinion

    the totaly "moderate" leftist guy: wants him gone even from his own project from it

    hope I made myself clear now 👍

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    No, you did, but my point still stands. Not all opinions are just an opinion.

    Person A: yeh we need to accept shootings. Empathy is damaging. So much more damaging crap.

    Person B: they debated, such good people, we need more like them.

    Yeah. No? My point is that there's a reason they get tagged as fascists or fascists apologists, they have fascist opinions or condone/glorify people saying them.

    "Has an opinion" is an unacceptable generalisation in this case.

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