▲ 972 ▼ Jimmy Kimmel Pulled “Indefinitely” By ABC After Over Charlie Kirk Comments (deadline.com) submitted 11 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world 244 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 74 points 11 months ago (1 child) Now i wonder what John Oliver gonna say this week, or he gonna get censored by HBO as well? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (4 children) Depends on whether or not HBO is seeing continually declining numbers of viewership. CBS, NBC, ABC those are all dying networks and they'll do anything to stay on air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 17 points 11 months ago (2 children) This is what I think too! These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple. It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process. Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv. ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know? Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Thank you for this much needed perspective. While the FCC's actions reek of overreach, ABC folding like a cheap card table just didn't sit well with me. Especially considering how CBS' parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. It makes a lot more sense now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. ...and settled. There was no verdict. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) and AM radio is now 100% ranting by old white men about widening the roads and taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which actually started this whole thing! The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.” Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example. Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) No, this is pure capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Almost there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mcv@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah, let them die, if they're so eager to kill their shows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago No argument here. Fuck network TV permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Isn’t there a pending merger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago As I understand, there is a merger in the works for Nexstar Media, which owns a huge number of local ABC affiliates and has the ability to just not actually air Kimmel on their stations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (4 children) Depends on whether or not HBO is seeing continually declining numbers of viewership. CBS, NBC, ABC those are all dying networks and they'll do anything to stay on air. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 17 points 11 months ago (2 children) This is what I think too! These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple. It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process. Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv. ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know? Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Thank you for this much needed perspective. While the FCC's actions reek of overreach, ABC folding like a cheap card table just didn't sit well with me. Especially considering how CBS' parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. It makes a lot more sense now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. ...and settled. There was no verdict. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) and AM radio is now 100% ranting by old white men about widening the roads and taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which actually started this whole thing! The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.” Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example. Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) No, this is pure capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Almost there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mcv@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah, let them die, if they're so eager to kill their shows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago No argument here. Fuck network TV permalink fedilink source parent [–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Isn’t there a pending merger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago As I understand, there is a merger in the works for Nexstar Media, which owns a huge number of local ABC affiliates and has the ability to just not actually air Kimmel on their stations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 17 points 11 months ago (2 children) This is what I think too! These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple. It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process. Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv. ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know? Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Thank you for this much needed perspective. While the FCC's actions reek of overreach, ABC folding like a cheap card table just didn't sit well with me. Especially considering how CBS' parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. It makes a lot more sense now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. ...and settled. There was no verdict. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) and AM radio is now 100% ranting by old white men about widening the roads and taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which actually started this whole thing! The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.” Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example. Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 child) Thank you for this much needed perspective. While the FCC's actions reek of overreach, ABC folding like a cheap card table just didn't sit well with me. Especially considering how CBS' parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. It makes a lot more sense now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. ...and settled. There was no verdict. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 child) Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. ...and settled. There was no verdict. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million. If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated. Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limelight79@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yeah, I just wanted to clarify that it wasn't a judge or jury that made them pay that. They settled. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 1 point 11 months ago Oh absolutely! I was just extrapolating on your comment. It’s fascinating, honestly. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) and AM radio is now 100% ranting by old white men about widening the roads and taxes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which actually started this whole thing! The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.” Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example. Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which actually started this whole thing! The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.” Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example. Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago The Fairness Doctrine only made sense in the more limited media landscape of the past. It would also require all media outlets to do things like give platforms to white supremacism and such. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) No, this is pure capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Almost there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (2 children) No, this is pure capitalism. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago Almost there. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] TheYattering@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Nah, let them die, if they're so eager to kill their shows. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago No argument here. Fuck network TV permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago No argument here. Fuck network TV permalink fedilink source parent
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) Isn’t there a pending merger? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago As I understand, there is a merger in the works for Nexstar Media, which owns a huge number of local ABC affiliates and has the ability to just not actually air Kimmel on their stations. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 point 11 months ago As I understand, there is a merger in the works for Nexstar Media, which owns a huge number of local ABC affiliates and has the ability to just not actually air Kimmel on their stations. permalink fedilink source parent