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Crystal Palace: Johnstone (GK), Ward, Andersen, Guéhi, Mitchell, Doucouré, Lerma, Ayew, Eze, Schlupp, Edouard

Bench: Matthews (GK), Clyne, Tomkins, Richards, Riedewald, Ahamada, Rak-Sakyi, Gordon

Arsenal: Ramsdale (GK), Partey, White, Saliba, Tomiyasu, Rice, Havertz, Ødegaard, Saka, Martinelli, Nketiah

Bench: Raya (GK), Zinchenko, Kiwior, Gabriel, Jorginho, Smith Rowe, Nelson, Vieira, Trossard

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If an opposing player held back a counter attack like that, we'd be demanding a yellow card. It's unfortunate, but he was in trouble when he got the first card for time wasting, he couldn't take that chance.

I wonder if this means that Gabriel will actually start the next match. I haven't been happy with this weird makeshift back 4 anyhow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holding the ball for 8 seconds, not fouling a guy, red card.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cumulative time wasting, Havertz held it for 15 seconds and Tomi for 8 seconds afterwards. The player who has the ball gets carded.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, seems unfair, but reasonable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, it was a counter and he was baited by the turn. It isn't enough for a yellow imo but it is still a foul. Whether or not it is a yellow is up to the refs discretion. Still you shouldn't be baited with a swivel like that at this level.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have to be aware you're on a yellow card too. Even if you get baited, you have to rely on your other defenders. He was in Palace's half at the time, so there was time to get back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Correct, he didn't have any situational awareness and Ayew took the contact and made it appear worse than it is

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was always surprised that Wenger never seemed to try to bring in one of the Ayew brothers. They seem very much like Wenger players. Smart and technical while not the traditional blueprint of a striker / winger.