At least 13 people were injured, five critically in two separate mass shootings at homeless encampments in Minneapolis, Minnesota on Monday. The first shooting took place at East Lake Street and Interstate 35W around 11am local time.

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[–] 99 points 1 year ago (33 children)

Move past pointing out hypocrisy. They don't care. We all know and on the scale of shit they're guilty of; it seems petty. The institutions are not going to do shit.

Consider what you will be doing about this.

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  • [+] 104 points 1 year ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (19 children)
  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    But we know and it just seems like an excuse to not talk about solutions at this point.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Comrade, organizing online is fraught in the best of times but I think people are hyper aware of the risks of talking about these things online right now.

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  • Dude the wife and I like talking long bike rides without our phones, the only electronics on us our lights and our motors. Get in some good conversations outside the city limits once it's quiet and we don't have to worry about blocking the tractor that comes by hourly (only traffic on that road) at 10mph, which we can both do without our motors.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Okay and I get that, but the hypocrisy thing just feels tedious. Like someone's trying very hard to miss what they're even doing when they make phonemes.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I say this with kindness: what do your comments add to the discussion? Sometimes people just want to vent. It's cool. Just scroll past.

    Why didn't I scroll past your comment? Because I thought it might be useful to remind people to shut the fuck up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Shutting the fuck up is pretty great if you have literally any idea what to do. I'm not anti shut-the-fuck-up. It's a really great solution for a lot of people. The best, even.

    I think i am also entitled to vent. Hearing libs shout about hypocrisy then aggressively shout down even the most mild plan of 'okay but personally ask them to stop' is pretty frustrating.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Shut the fuck up refers to talking to cops or even about your activities/plans in public. I wasn't saying you can't vent.

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  • I am aware, that's why i praised it! I was hoping more to provoke thought than discussion. I figure most people still complaining about hypocrisy need encouragement more than caution right now. They need to understand cops are not god and statist 'laws' are not remotely the same kind of thing as physical 'laws' before they can actually practice caution especially for more moderate actions that might occur to them, like boycotts and stuff.

    Except for the passive space laser made of a single giant lense. That I would like discussed because it would be cool but I don't actually know if it would work.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Who's stopping you from talking about Solutions?

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Not knowing shit about signal electrowhatever or guns, which seem like the two bodies of knowledge a solution would come from.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    So your own ignorance is the only thing stopping you?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yeah. Not everyone can know everything.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Best be seeing to that then. Since nobody is stopping you but yourself apparently.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Tried a couple times before, never got very far.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So not just ignorance but apathy? Shame.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • Right hand rule works for almost everything dude. That's why it's confusing as fuck.

    Now me, I learned four disciplines where depreciation means something different in each of them. They all speak the same base language, but they all use so much godsdamned jargon and so many of the jargon words across disciplines are homonyms. I can hardly think straight anymore.

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  • Ignorance and general powerlessness. Also he's all the way fuck over there and I'm not buying diapers and living off cash and MREs for a week while I piss jug my way across a couple thousand miles just to live out someone else's fantasy of being Gavrilo Príncip

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Just the opposite. Continue to point it out at every opportunity. They hate being called out. It doesn't matter if they care about what they practice, they hate hearing it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    So far, it only seems to be ratcheting up persecution.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    We're at the point now where the only way out is through. The basic checklist includes staying alive, staying sane, trying to stay out of trouble, helping out when you can, and looking for others doing the same. More or less in that order. There is always a "final battle" when society does a fascism that ultimately unwinds it. We're on track for that and have just missed our last exit. That's what we have to look forward to. We're firmly in "weeks where decades happen" territory, buckle up. Hopefully this time we can clean up properly after.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    We've been there for a long while and refused to see it, for personal comfort and safety. It will require a lot more temperance, courage, sacrifice, a lot less reactionarianism.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If Republicans didn't have mirrors they wouldn't know their own reflection

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So, what, some sort if orbital magnifying glass to burn them with? Wouldn't the atmosphere make that really hard?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Not a magnifying glass. Giant tungton rods. No explosive need. Just drop them from space. Kinetic energy does the rest

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Weaponizing giant tungsten rods takes a lot more than 'dropping' them, you can't just let go when they're in orbit and expect them to hit targets because .... they're in orbit, they ain't going anywhere without some delta V. Plus, if they're massive dense objects, getting them up INTO orbit is gonna take a ton of rocket fuel. At that point you might as well just use an ICBM with an explosive payload because the destruction-to-cost ratio is way better.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Probably the most expensive way to turn cash into 1/100th the energy of a nuclear bomb but I don't want to give them any ideas.

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